American voters oppose the Warlike Deep State

[Estro Felino]

I mean... it has become pretty crystal clear that many people are realizing that since the very beginning of the 21st century there has been an elitist gang of warmongers who have decided to fight and undo many countries with the pretext of the "just war".


Take a look at this: Starts at 0:29

I mean... is that something forgivable or amendable?

Presidential candidates saying war is okay will never win the elections. Any more.

 

[Father Heathen]

Trump supports Israel's war in Gaza, so what are you talking about? Also, why do you continue to push the rape apologist narrative even though no honest, rational adult takes it seriously?

 

[Viker]

.No. The American vote just went pro-Russia and pro-Israel who are very much both warlike. For now, the American electorate is pro-war, more like pro-agression and opposed to anyone willing to defend themselves. America, for now, sees defenders as the bad guys and attackers as heroes.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump supports Israel's war in Gaza, so what are you talking about? Also, why do you continue to push the rape apologist narrative even though no honest, rational adult takes it seriously?

We are speaking of the wars started by Bush, Obama since the beginning of the 21st century.
Please...
I kindly asked you guys to watch the very short video.

 

[Estro Felino]

.No. The American vote just went pro-Russia and pro-Israel who are very much both warlike. For now, the American electorate is pro-war, more like pro-agression and opposed to anyone willing to defend themselves. America, for now, sees defenders as the bad guys and attackers as heroes.

I am pro-peace.
I am pro-West, and by West I mean a West that promotes peace and geopolitical stability.

American voters are anti-war, trust me. Even soldiers are anti-war. My university was not that far from an American Naval Air station, I have met American marines since I was a teenager. They don't like war.

 

[Estro Felino]

These leaders have been considered a threat to the International Banking system.
Intelligent and capable gentlemen who had a vision for their own country. And the Arab world.

 

[Father Heathen]

We are speaking of the wars started by Bush, Obama since the beginning of the 21st century.
Please...
I kindly asked you guys to watch the very short video.

So then why does support for the Israeli war get a pass?

 

[Father Heathen]

These leaders have been considered a threat to the International Banking system.
Intelligent and capable gentlemen who had a vision for their own country. And the Arab world.

You obsess over "banking elites". In fact you're the only person I know who references them. Is it code for "jew"?

 

[Estro Felino]

So then why does support for the Israeli war get a pass?

Really? A certain Prime Minister has some explaining to do.

Watch.

 

[Estro Felino]

You obsess over "banking elites". In fact you're the only person I know who references them. Is it code for "jew"?

Absolutely not. I can promise you many banksters are from a Catholic background.

And by the way... me supporting the Israeli nation does not mean that I think that all Jews are immaculate saints.
Because there are good people and bad people in any religion.

 

[Heyo]

.No. The American vote just went pro-Russia and pro-Israel who are very much both warlike. For now, the American electorate is pro-war, more like pro-agression and opposed to anyone willing to defend themselves. America, for now, sees defenders as the bad guys and attackers as heroes.

For now? The US electorate has been bellicose since I can remember. There was a short period when a vocal minority was against the Vietnam War, but that was it. Bush dragged the US into two costly wars with lies, and what did the US electorate do about it? They voted him in for a second term.
And, for the record, Bush is a republican. There is no anti-war party in the US.

 

[Father Heathen]

Absolutely not. I can promise you many banksters are from a Catholic background.

And by the way... me supporting the Israeli nation does not mean that I think that all Jews are immaculate saints.

You claim to be "anti-war", yet support two hostile, war waging nations (Israel and Russia) who've committed heinous war crimes. Everyone here can see right through it.

 

[Father Heathen]

For now? The US electorate has been bellicose since I can remember. There was a short period when a vocal minority was against the Vietnam War, but that was it. Bush dragged the US into two costly wars with lies, and what did the US electorate do about it? They voted him in for a second term.
And, for the record, Bush is a republican. There is no anti-war party in the US.

Conservatives were very gung ho about those two wars, and questioned the patriotism of anyone who protested them. Also, most conservatives support Israel's actions in Gaza. They're hypocritical about the war between Russia and Ukraine. They whine about giving money to Ukraine, yet have no qualms giving money to Israel, as we have for decades. I suppose they just want to be a part of the human centipede that Trump started with Putin.

 

[Estro Felino]

You claim to be "anti-war", yet support two hostile, war waging nations (Israel and Russia) who've committed heinous war crimes. Everyone here can see right through it.

And yet you didn't address the topic: the Iraq War, the Libya War...
who is responsible for them?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I mean... it has become pretty crystal clear that many people are realizing that since the very beginning of the 21st century there has been an elitist gang of warmongers who have decided to fight and undo many countries with the pretext of the "just war".

What "has become pretty crystal clear" is your Putinesque world view enamored with Russia invading the Ukraine with the help of the Wagner Group and Kim Jong Un.

 

[Father Heathen]

And yet you didn't address the topic: the Iraq War, the Libya War...
who is responsible for them?

Yes, I did. Republicans/Bush carried out the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Gaddafi's abusive, authoritarian rule triggered the Libyan people to rise up against him.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, I did. Republicans/Bush carried out the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

That's a relief you guys remember.
I mean ...what Russia has done, pales by comparison.

Gaddafi's abusive, authoritarian rule triggered the Libyan people to rise up against him.

Not at all.
Libya was a sovereign country, and even if it was not democratic it was absolutely stable and prosperous.

The Obama administration made a grave mistake.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's a relief you guys remember.
I mean ...what Russia has done, pales by comparison.

Do two wrongs make a right?

Gaddafi was a sovereign country, and even if it was not democratic it was absolutely stable and prosperous.

Libyans can speak for themselves. I've no interest in your fan fiction.

Edit: Let's say Obama was responsible, how would his actions have been different from Putin's. Why does Putin get a pass? Is it because Obama's black? Be honest.

 

[Estro Felino]

Do two wrongs make a right?

Libyans can speak for themselves. I've no interest in your fan fiction.

Edit: Let's say Obama was responsible, how would his actions have been different from Putin's. Why does Putin get a pass? Is it because Obama's black? Be honest.

Since this thread is about the USA wars...I mean...isn't that whataboutism?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Since this thread is about the USA wars...I mean...isn't that whataboutism?

Whining about "whataboutism" is a pretty wimpy retort to exposing hypocrisy.