• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

An Amusing Quote About the Origin of the Universe and the God of the Gaps

gnostic

The Lost One
You must be very picky about exact wording. I see no problem there.
Seriously, it is the other way around.

The author only based his interpretation on one verse of Isaiah sign, when the sign should be read in ITS ENTIRETY, which is four-verse long (Isaiah 7:14-17).

And when the sign read in its entirety you get the whole context of the sign, which relate to the Ahaz’s war with Pekah and Rezin, and Assyria’s intervention. You only need to read the whole chapter (Isaiah 7) - from first verse to the last - to understand why the sign was written in the first place.

Hence, Isaiah’s sign had nothing to do with the messiah or with the Messianic prophecy, and the sign have nothing to do with Mary and Jesus.

The gospel author only chose to reinterpret one verse, hence only partial of the sign, and changed the sign completely. That’s what I picky, Wildswanderer, and it is also what I call poor scholarship.

The only reason to twist Isaiah’s original passage is propaganda, pure and simple.

Chapter 8, actually confirmed what I am saying about the war and Assyria, when Immanuel is mentioned again, Isaiah 8:8, once again in relation to Judah, Rezin and Assyria, so I would suggest that you read Isaiah 8, verse 1 to 8, to get the whole context.

But here, read this:

“Isaiah 8:5-8” said:
5 The Lord spoke to me again: 6 Because this people has refused the waters of Shiloah that flow gently, and melt in fear before Rezin and the son of Remaliah; 7 therefore, the Lord is bringing up against it the mighty flood waters of the River, the king of Assyria and all his glory; it will rise above all its channels and overflow all its banks; 8 it will sweep on into Judah as a flood, and, pouring over, it will reach up to the neck; and its outspread wings will fill the breadth of your land, O Immanuel.

Do you not see Immanuel being mentioned again in the above passage?

Immanuel (in both Isaiah 7 & 8) never had anything to with messiah or with Jesus; not once, did anyone call Jesus, Immanuel, because immanuel was never Jesus’ name. That’s just Christian propaganda and poor scholarship. But I wouldn’t be surprise if you make some sorry excuses.
 
Top