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An Interesting challenge

If I were to mnemonic the letters via the descriptions from the Genesis alphabetic acrostic they’d probably resemble something like this:

Beth ~ Gods house, everything in Heaven and Earth.
Aleph ~ Light/ Day and Night.
Gimel ~ Sky / Heaven.
Shin ~ Fire / Dryness / Heat.
Daleth ~ Doors into and out of the world.
Tav ~ the Measurement of Solar and Lunar Time.
Heh ~ Stars and Starlight.
Vav ~ Birds, Fish and Sea Monsters.
Zayin ~ Cattle and Insects.
Cheth ~ Sight, Vision, Appearance, Prophesy, Man.
Teth ~ Food.
Yod ~ Rest and Contemplation.
Kaph ~ Mist, Rain, Desire.
Lamed ~ The breath of Life, Ruach.
Mem ~ Pregnancy.
Nun ~ Life, but also Death for all living things under the Sun.
Samekh ~ the great River.
Ayin ~ Temptation.
Peh ~ Mating.
Tsade ~ Childbirth, because Eve is regarded as the first birth according to Kabbalah.
Qoph ~ Moon / Eve / female.
Resh ~ Sun / Adam / male.

The Genesis Alphabetic Acrostic;

The Palace of Beth (2).
‎“1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2. The earth was formless and void, and ‎darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the ‎waters. “‎

The two Palaces of the Aleph (1).
‎“3. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4. God saw that the light was good; and ‎God separated the light from the darkness.”‎
‎ “5. God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was ‎morning, one day.”‎

The path of Gimel (3)‎.
‎“6. Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters ‎from the waters.” ‎
‎“7. God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the ‎waters which were above the expanse; and it was so.” ‎
‎“8. God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.”‎

The path of Shin 3‎.
‎“9. Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land ‎appear”; and it was so. “‎
‎“10. God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it ‎was good.”‎

Dalet 4‎.
‎“11. Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth ‎bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. 12. The earth brought forth vegetation, ‎plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God ‎saw that it was good. 13. There was evening and there was morning, a third day.”‎

The path of Tav 4‎.
‎14. Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the ‎night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15. and let them be for lights ‎in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16. God made the two great ‎lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; ‎

The Path and Palace of the Heh (5)‎.
He made the stars also. 17. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the ‎earth, 18. and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and ‎God saw that it was good. 19. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

Vau 6‎.
‎20. Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the ‎earth in the open expanse of the heavens.” 21. God created the great sea monsters and every ‎living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after ‎its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22. God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill ‎the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”‎
‎23. There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.‎

Zayin 7‎.
‎ 24. Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and ‎creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so. 25. God made the beasts of the ‎earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its ‎kind; and God saw that it was good.‎

Cheth 8‎.
‎26. Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over ‎the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over ‎every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27. God created man in His own image, in the image of ‎God He created him; male and female He created them. 28. God blessed them; and God said to them, ‎‎”Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the ‎birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”‎

Teth 9.
‎29. Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the ‎earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30. and to every beast of ‎the earth and to every bird of the sky and to everything that moves on the earth which has life, I have ‎given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31. God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was ‎very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Yod 10‎.
‎ 1. Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2. By the seventh day God ‎completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He ‎had done. 3. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His ‎work which God had created and made.‎

Kaph 20‎.
‎4. This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD ‎God made earth and heaven. 5. Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the ‎field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to ‎cultivate the ground. 6. But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ‎ground. ‎

Lamed 30‎.
‎7. Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath ‎of life; and man became a living being. ‎

Mem 40‎.
‎8. The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He ‎had formed. ‎

Nun 50‎.
‎9. Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good ‎for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and ‎evil.‎

Samekh 60‎.
‎10. Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four ‎rivers. 11. The name of the first is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is ‎gold. 12. The gold of that land is good; the bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13. The name of ‎the second river is Gihon; it flows around the whole land of Cush. 14. The name of the third river is ‎Tigris; it flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.‎

Ayin 70‎.
‎15. Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. ‎‎16. The LORD God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17. ‎but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from ‎it you will surely die.”‎

Peh 80‎.
‎18. Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable ‎for him.” 19. Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, ‎and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living ‎creature, that was its name. 20. The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and ‎to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. ‎

Tsade 90‎.
‎21. So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ‎ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22. The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He ‎had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.‎

Qoph 100‎.
‎23. The man said,‎
‎“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”‎

Resh 200‎.
‎24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall ‎become one flesh. 25. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.‎”
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Well the mysticism emerges from observations of the natural cycles of the world. Look at the Letter Beth (2) at the top of the diagram of the Seven Palaces. That probably corresponded to the pole star at one time. The Seventh Palace was the home of EL , and the first thing he did from there is make the light and the darkness, and so the value of the 2 splits and creates the two Palaces of the Aleph (1) at either side. This is why the Rabbi's say "Aleph is never less than Beth".

In the center is the Palace of the Resh (200), for the Sun, which is the value of 2 magnified a hundred times. The palaces of the Daleth (4) are the doors of Life and Death. New souls or reincarnating souls enter the world from the Palace on the left and exit to the Palace on the right. Lastly, the Heh (5) represents the gate intersecting the world on the spot where the Temple would be.

Is that the sort of thing you wanted to know?
Sorry, no, thanks however.
Regards
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
Please inform us the basis of "Gimatrya". Who fixed the mathematical value of (alphabetical) characters in different languages and on what basis?
The concept is rather simple,
The first ten letters are valued is a sequence 1-10
Than the following ones are valued 20-100 and then 200-400
And how it is termed scientific? Also, is there an scientific article published in a Scientific Journal of repute? If yes, please give a reference, please.
I Didn't say it was a scientific theory, rather a scientific approach.
This means it is a measurable thing.
Regards[/QUOTE]
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
How, exactly, would this group go about looking for answers to science in the Kabbalah?

Would you use the Kabbalah to guess at a scientific question and then ask an expert in that science what science had to say about it?
No.
There are explanations, for example regrading the creation of the world, that describe much similarities to the biog bang theory.
As i am not an astrophysicist, it would be interesting if one can make a genuine comparison between the big bang theory and the descriptions in the scriptures (and their Kabalistic explanations)
I've used Tarot cards effectively to help myself make a major life decision. I've done a reading for someone else that seemed effective for them. I agree with others who have said that confirmation bias is a risk. IMO Tarot and I Ching which purport to help access future knowledge do so by framing knowledge in a very abstract and intuitive way such that it is ripe for generating meaningful pattern under a wide range of applications.
That not what i was talking about.
I mean that there are actual writings (for example a statement dating 1200 years ago that the earth was once one land and it was separated into 7 separate lands)
This can easily be verified (as an example).
Like this statement, there are hundreds more that we still cannot prove scientifically but we can assume their probability.
The Jewish belief for example speaks of 3 + 1 basic matter elements that are the basics for all other elements.
There are claims of distant star systems
There are claims about the number of starts in the universe.
Things like that.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
Earth, wind, fire, water. None of which are basic elements. None of which are exclusive to ancient Jewry.
Specifically what claims?
You are stating the simplistic names they are given, but these are not the actual elements.
They are a representation of a much more complex ideas that are simplified to be called earth, wind etc.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Earth, wind, fire, water. None of which are basic elements. None of which are exclusive to ancient Jewry.

Specifically what claims?
You are stating the simplistic names they are given, but these are not the actual elements.
They are a representation of a much more complex ideas that are simplified to be called earth, wind etc.

What are these "much more complex ideas that are simplified to be called earth, wind etc."


And again, Specifically what claims?[
 
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