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Ancient Reality

sooda

Veteran Member
I'm primarily at this site to discuss science and religion. Many of my opinions on this subject come from having debunked ramps for building pyramids, finding how the pyramids were probably built and trying to deal with Egyptologists who believe they are scientists but don't even know what the word means. I've shown every single one of the foundational assumptions of Egyptology is wrong yet they are inert because only peers can affect a "science" that has "peer review" as a part of the "scientific" process.

Ancient people were nothing like we are as even the most casual glance at this thread should show. They were not moribund nor superstitious. They never built a 6 1/2 million ton tomb. And they never dragged a stone up a ramp.

The evidence is actually quite clear and says they used linear funiculars to build the pyramids. They used the weight of water from a carbonated aquifer in large counterweights to lift stones.

It is this that was the ancient reality. They didn't think like Egyptologists and used a different kind of science that could not be false to its metaphysics because its metaphysics was language itself.

What is a "carbonated aquifer"?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
  1. Pyramid Texts - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_Texts
    The Pyramid Texts are the oldest known corpus of ancient Egyptian religious texts dating to the Old Kingdom. Written in Old Egyptian, the pyramid texts were carved onto the subterranean walls and sarcophagi of pyramids at Saqqara from the end of the Fifth Dynasty, and throughout the Sixth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom, and into the Eighth Dynasty of the First Intermediate Period.

  2. Pyramid Texts Online - English Translation
    www.pyramidtextsonline.com/translation.html
    Translation of the Unas Pyramid Texts. The following is the complete text from the Pyramid of Unas, based on translations by Faulkner, Piankoff and Speleer.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
If I'm right about this then nothing we believe is true. Human beings are not even intelligent but rather the perception of intelligence is an artefact of analog language. Technology isn't the result of understanding and science is only "real" to the degree it is supported by experiment and empirical data. Our perception of physical "law" is also an artefact of modern (confused) language rather than of reality itself. Across the board everything from history to epistemology and linguistics are stood on their heads. Large swathes of 20th century "science" are shown to be opinion or only true in limited and specific situations.

I believe I have the best possible evidence that I am correct: My theory makes accurate predictions. Indeed, by the standards of ancient science this is proof the theory is correct.

The bottom line is simple. Based on the meaning of the Pyramid Texts that Egyptologists claim is mere nonsense and incantation I was first able to show how the great pyramids were built and incorporate virtually all of the physical evidence into this new paradigm. I was also able to debunk the usage of ramps to build them because ramps weren't used and the evidence weighs against the usage of ramps. The word "ramp" isn't even attested from the great pyramid building age. Most importantly though I was able to predict a thermal anomaly on the east side of the Great Pyramid!! Egyptologists lack any sort of hypothesis for what could have caused this after the fact, after it was found! I predicted its existence before it was found!

As I understand the PT and the physical and historical evidence there was obviously a thermal anomaly.
This theory makes many more predictions as well but the most important facet of the theory is that it is consistent with the actual evidence. I have reverse engineered the pyramid but this took me a mere year to do and I've spent the last decade finding why nobody cares and nobody can believe it. There are fantastic implications about the nature of our reality vis a vis ancient reality and the true nature of all science. There are unbelievable and incredible implications about how ancient people lived and how ancient science was transformed into recorded history, science, and religion. There is the opportunity to recover not only ancient science which we could redevelop anyway but also 40,000 years of human history all the way back to "adam" (S3h) and "eve" (Sothis).

It's a far more remarkable reality than anything dreamed up by a modern day cosmologist.

So you must be published ???
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Carbonate rock - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_rock
Carbonate rocks
are a class of sedimentary rocks composed primarily of carbonate minerals.The two major types are limestone, which is composed of calcite or aragonite (different crystal forms of CaCO 3) and dolostone, which is composed of the mineral dolomite (CaMg(CO 3) 2).


OK.... So what the heck is a "carbonated aquifer"?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Thanks for the post. The man is remarkably insightful and is speaking of a subject closely related to what I'm talking about. i had never realized the importance of writing before but, yes, he's right that writing is much of the impact of modern superstition in individuals. It is the means by which we most easily recall learning and the easiest means to learn. People speaking modern language want definitions, descriptions and pictures (drawings) and they have the most impact in the written form. Writing something down solidifies it in our memory.

But the major cause of problems is language itself. Everything we say is open to interpretation. We have to give up the language we were born with to acquire modern analog language and this language programs our minds. It forces us to think in analog terms and forces us to think linearly. We have a train of thought where animals and ancient man think in three dimensions. It is this three dimensionality that causes us to misinterpret Ancient Language as being full of "puns". There more akin to train tracks overlapping than "puns". The tracks of ancient thought led to the meaning of every utterance.

Humans are the "odd man out" in nature because every other species, every other individual everything, is tuned to nature/ ecology/ the cycles of reality. Reality of life is about individuals whereas the reality of nature itself is the interplay of the logic that governs everything from math to all other animal languages.
Modern language sets everything backward. When we speak we assume shared perspective which is at infinite distance in real time. We assume each listener is familiar with referents and has the same object as the referent. Even the listener assumes all this. Communication breaks down in every single case as proven by "chinese telephone".

How ironic that writing was invented to record modern language which arose around 3500 BC. It used the exact same vocabulary as Ancient Language but was formatted the way we speak. It was invented because science had become so complex the slower people could not use it and needed an alternative. Modern language was a pidgin form of ancient Language and to communicate with them it was necessary to write it down because modern language changes as it is repeated.
It was modern language and the superstitions promoted by it that caused the dark ages beginning in 2000 BC when the old language collapsed. It was science invented some 400 years ago that has started to bring back the light.

But make no mistake. We haven't really caught up with ancient science yet. The pyramid builders knew the speed of light and many other things that we might not know yet. A tool determines the job it can do and modern science is merely a tool. Ancient science was a different tool used in a different way. Ancient understanding was based on ancient metaphysics and this metaphysics resonated with nature and employed the exact same logic as reality itself and mathematics.

We must continue with analog language because our science is far too complex for humans to understand its digitized form. But this doesn't mean we can't learn and understand things from other perspectives. It doesn't mean we can't better understand metaphysics to better understand modern science. There's no reason that specialists can't reinvent ancient science using the headstart of the PT and modern science as a guide. Ancient science employed far more manhours over a far longer time to be invented. It probably still has things to teach us.

You can't see it if you can't believe your own eyes and look at the reality that is ancient Egypt. Not the nonsense printed in book because every single word of it is wrong. There wasn't even a word for "belief" in Ancient Language.

What does the word "metaphysics" mean to you?

Really? Do you know all the ancient languages?

  1. Metaphysics (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
    Update Your Link (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)metaphysics
    1. The Word ‘Metaphysics’ and the Concept of Metaphysics. The word ‘metaphysics’ is notoriously hard to define. Twentieth-century coinages like ‘meta-language’ and ‘metaphilosophy’ encourage the impression that metaphysics is a study that somehow “goes beyond” physics, a study devoted to matters that transcend the mundane concerns of Newton and Einstein and Heisenberg.

  2. What is the meaning of Metaphysics?
    What is the meaning of Metaphysics?metaphysics
    Metaphysics
    acknowledges and respects the beauty in ALL of God’s Creation. Metaphysics is religion without dogma. Metaphysics does not explore religious beliefs and laws created by man, but rather, it explores the immutable laws of nature, set by The Creator, God/Universal Presence, in the …

  3. Metaphysics | Britannica.com
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/metaphysics
    Metaphysics
    : Metaphysics, the philosophical study whose object is to determine the real nature of things—to determine the meaning, structure, and principles of whatever is insofar as it is. Although this study is popularly conceived as referring to anything excessively subtle …

What are "carbonated aquifers" and where are they located in Egypt?
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
What are you trying to say?

The Pyramid Texts is wholly misinterpreted. They are ritual, not incantation. We obviously misinterpret them because they didn't even have the vocabulary to express belief and thought.

We wholly misapprehend nature because we are removed from it by language.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
A carbonated aquifer is water under the earth at low temperature, high pressure, and rich in minerals and carbon dioxide.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
The Pyramid Texts is wholly misinterpreted. They are ritual, not incantation. We obviously misinterpret them because they didn't even have the vocabulary to express belief and thought.

We wholly misapprehend nature because we are removed from it by language.

So? They were just spells and incantations for the dead... instructional recitations of various rituals. What's the big deal with that.. That's not new.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
A carbonated aquifer is water under the earth at low temperature, high pressure, and rich in minerals and carbon dioxide.

Do you know what carbonate rock is? Limestone is a carbonate rock. What do you mean "under pressure"?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
A carbonated aquifer is water under the earth at low temperature, high pressure, and rich in minerals and carbon dioxide.

NO.. A carbonated aquifer is found in limestone and dolomite rocks. Carbonate aquifers typically produced hard water, that is, water containing relatively high levels of calcium and magnesium. It isn't fizzy water.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
NO.. A carbonated aquifer is found in limestone and dolomite rocks. Carbonate aquifers typically produced hard water, that is, water containing relatively high levels of calcium and magnesium. It isn't fizzy water.


No.

Carbonated aquifers just like carbonated lakes are rare. Very little is known about them but the CO2 is from nearby volcanic activity in most cases.
 

Audie

Veteran Member

No.

Carbonated aquifers just like carbonated lakes are rare. Very little is known about them but the CO2 is from nearby volcanic activity in most cases.


Please give us a reference to "carbonated aquifer".

Ground water from limestone aquifers always contains
CO2, the limestone is carbonate rock.

Both are common as dirt.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
Please give us a reference to "carbonated aquifer".

Ground water from limestone aquifers always contains
CO2, the limestone is carbonate rock.

Both are common as dirt.

You can wiki "aquifer" and "carbonated" as easily as I can.

You can also read about CO2 geysers but there's little known and they are rare. I believe "Andernach" is the largest today;

Andernach Geyser - Wikipedia

There are two aquifer under the area that the great pyramids were built. Because there was once a mile and half deep canyon next to this area there are caves that permeate to this depth.

You might want to look up Lake Kivu as well since this lake was in the Nile Drainage Basin in very recent geologic time.

Few people have any idea about the facts and evidence related to pyramids and their construction because they get their information from Egyptologists who don't know and don't care. Egyptologists are actually linguists and have been put in total control of what science takes place. They have far more interest in the minutia of what they believe is ancient language than they do in things like how the pyramids were built. The fact is they merely assumed they were built with ramps or some brutal and savage means and the specifics don't interest them so THEY NEVER EVEN LOOKED. They never realized that if they looked they'd find all their beliefs are wrong.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
You can wiki "aquifer" and "carbonated" as easily as I can.

You can also read about CO2 geysers but there's little known and they are rare. I believe "Andernach" is the largest today;

Andernach Geyser - Wikipedia

There are two aquifer under the area that the great pyramids were built. Because there was once a mile and half deep canyon next to this area there are caves that permeate to this depth.

You might want to look up Lake Kivu as well since this lake was in the Nile Drainage Basin in very recent geologic time.

Few people have any idea about the facts and evidence related to pyramids and their construction because they get their information from Egyptologists who don't know and don't care. Egyptologists are actually linguists and have been put in total control of what science takes place. They have far more interest in the minutia of what they believe is ancient language than they do in things like how the pyramids were built. The fact is they merely assumed they were built with ramps or some brutal and savage means and the specifics don't interest them so THEY NEVER EVEN LOOKED. They never realized that if they looked they'd find all their beliefs are wrong.

I dont need to look up those words.

You combined them in an odd way that
appears to be your invention.

Your failure to demonstrate otherwise
comes as no surprise.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
I dont need to look up those words.

You combined them in an odd way that
appears to be your invention.

Your failure to demonstrate otherwise
comes as no surprise.

I suppose I kindda did.

But the fact is that a CO2 geyser in this area is improbable because there are caves to great depth. Carbonated water would tend to disperse in these caves if it approached the surface in the normal way we imagine these geysers operating. So I'm proposing that there was a great deal of CO2 and it originated at some distance from the area that the pyramids were built.

CO2 geysers are improbable everywhere yet they exist and the conditions and geology where they do appear is not uniform.

There are good reasons to suppose there were geysers or something quite similar here; the best reason is that the great pyramid builders said there were geysers. They said "cool effervescent water like wine was in a column that stood at Giza and was tossed violently in the air during pyramid building season". They said this water was used to "tow the earth". This could be written off as the ramblings of superstitious bumpkins if not for the simple fact that there is extensive physical evidence that they built the pyramids with water collected at 81' 3" exactly as they said.

There's another fact that makes it possible they had CO2 geysers; it fits in the cultural context and ancient reports of how the pyramids were built!

We wholly misinterpret ancient reality and we can't see it because we wholly misinterpret our own reality. We believe we are intelligent and knowledgeable but neither of these are true. We believe we science works because we are so smart and understand all the experiments but neither of these are true either. Indeed, we don't understand the nature of life or our own natures because modern language hides from us the important data. We can't understand Ancient Language because it was metaphysical and we don't even understand our own modern metaphysics. Metaphysical Language just looks like magic to us as we imagine technology would look like magic to the pyramid builders.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The Pyramid Texts is wholly misinterpreted. They are ritual, not incantation. We obviously misinterpret them because they didn't even have the vocabulary to express belief and thought.
Yes, they are misinterpreted by you.

You are forgetting that some of Old Kingdom Pyramid Texts are very similar to the ones in the Middle Kingdom Coffin Texts. Which are indications of them both being funerary literature.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
Yes, they are misinterpreted by you.

You are forgetting that some of Old Kingdom Pyramid Texts are very similar to the ones in the Middle Kingdom Coffin Texts. Which are indications of them both being funerary literature.

This is Look and See Science that stood the test of time since Champollion but I have shown it is in error. It is exactly the cause of the detour. It wasn't really so much Champollion's as it was Maspero and the Egyptologists who followed him but the confusion originated in the early 19th century and it led to the chaos of the 20th century and the elevation of opinion to gospel.

The Pyramid Texts "look" like the Coffin Texts" which "looks" like the book of the dead so they translated and interpreted the PT in terms of these later books making it "look" even more like they are the same.

I have proven they are not the same. I have shown that the Ancient Language had no words for belief or thought and that it breaks Zipf's Law. Most of 20th century and 21st century science is founded on quicksand and some it is wrong and all of it is stuck. It doesn't "feel" stuck because technology is still catching up with theory.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I suppose I kindda did.

But the fact is that a CO2 geyser in this area is improbable because there are caves to great depth. Carbonated water would tend to disperse in these caves if it approached the surface in the normal way we imagine these geysers operating. So I'm proposing that there was a great deal of CO2 and it originated at some distance from the area that the pyramids were built.

CO2 geysers are improbable everywhere yet they exist and the conditions and geology where they do appear is not uniform.

There are good reasons to suppose there were geysers or something quite similar here; the best reason is that the great pyramid builders said there were geysers. They said "cool effervescent water like wine was in a column that stood at Giza and was tossed violently in the air during pyramid building season". They said this water was used to "tow the earth". This could be written off as the ramblings of superstitious bumpkins if not for the simple fact that there is extensive physical evidence that they built the pyramids with water collected at 81' 3" exactly as they said.

There's another fact that makes it possible they had CO2 geysers; it fits in the cultural context and ancient reports of how the pyramids were built!

We wholly misinterpret ancient reality and we can't see it because we wholly misinterpret our own reality. We believe we are intelligent and knowledgeable but neither of these are true. We believe we science works because we are so smart and understand all the experiments but neither of these are true either. Indeed, we don't understand the nature of life or our own natures because modern language hides from us the important data. We can't understand Ancient Language because it was metaphysical and we don't even understand our own modern metaphysics. Metaphysical Language just looks like magic to us as we imagine technology would look like magic to the pyramid builders.

Ok so there is no such thing as a carbonated aquifer, and you
agree that you made it up.

One down.

Plz refrain from made up or speculative geology,
I am prettyk confident I am better versed.

A CO2 geyser is unusual, So asteroid impacts, kimberlite
large gold nuggets and several other things. So?

As for your ancient metaphysics science language,
I quit looking, you repeating yourself.

There is a property of pyramids you may have ovrrlooked
in your quest, the power to make people crazy.

Victims are everywhere. You may want to be csreful.
 
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