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And Now I have SUPER Crappy news about my Immigration....

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Well folks,

I thought sure as **** that when my Wife got her permit that mine would be on the way.

I jumped the gun in posting however.

Yesterday I went for the mail and got my rejection notice, even after my Wife was approved.

The error was in the options of where we could apply.
You have to fit into a category in the 'skilled worker' bracket for immigration.
Which my Wife does.

However I do not.

We were both sure that I for lack of a better expression, would 'coat tail' it in with her.

It didn't matter that I worked my *** off while she was in school so that we could live here more comfortably....

My contribution feels rejected.

The words were to the effect of, 'Your continued residence in Canada is not seen as a valuable asset to the Citizens and Permanent Residence of this Country.'



Had I known the only thing I could have done was arbitrarily have gone into some school program, but it's too late to get accepted first and then apply for a permit. I'm not sure what the options are for that if in say in 6 months I'm accepted and my Wife permit is still valid, we could easily move back. I'm not sure that is an option for her at this point. There are still a lot of questions at this point.

I have until Sept 30th to leave the country....
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So tomorrow We are going to the border to talk to an agent about getting an extension so that we can 'finish' our lives here and get the ends tied up.

I'm feeling major grief and feel stupid for making an assumption that I'd get to grow old here.

I guess I still COULD, but I guess I didn't figure it'd be a 'second attempt' at this point
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Must be what a climber who doesn't get the peak feels like?

It's not an end really... just a MAJOR ******* bump.

Coming back to the States feels grim and is not a choice really, but I'd say a necessity at this point.




There is more going on inside of me than I think you'd all care to read, but man.... I'm feeling pretty low at the time.

I don't expect the border agent to do any miracles tomorrow but know that I can't have more than 6 months here w/ a visitors visa. I don't intend to live here like that though, so just having enough time to get stuff together and close this chapter here would be nice.

We don't know where we are heading right now either.

My Wife has a job interview in Maine which we're both pretty excited about.
And on our way back from Rhode Island this summer we really thought Western Mass and Northern New York looked like cool places.
We've been to/through Vermont and would really think about settling there as well.
Hell, I joked that when we first came to Canada we'd intended to move to Alaska or the Northwest of the States, so maybe since we missed the mark and got the whole way back east we'll make our way out west again, state side.


It's really hard not to feel desperate for any way to stay here, but I don't think this is the time it's going to happen. When I opened that letter I seriously had to sit down quickly as I started to go weak in the knees. Hopelessness and helplessness overwhelmed me.

So unless that agent tells us there was some mix up with my acceptance based on my marriage/partnership, this is it for now.

Back to the States mates.

I'm trying to keep my head up about this and take it for what it is.
A huge freaking change!


My Wife and I are healthy and happy.
5 years together in the States, 5 Years here....
Who knows what is next?



So folks, if nothing else, this is a heads up that I might disappear off and on for a while, and also might explain any tones in my posts that seem out of place.

I really don't know what is going to take place at this point.

I could have 2 days to 6 months left here.


Talk to you soon ,
SageTree



Oh... here is a kick in the balls....

To apply it was $500 each.

My Wife got her permit, which means they kept it all.
I get back $200 of my money since I wasn't approved.


Enjoy the extra $700 bucks!!!
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DANG!!!
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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
That really sucks!!! And i can't believe it costs so much just to apply for a permit.
I hope things work out in the USA.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
Wow, Sage, that's intensely frustrating and disappointing. Feeling for you and your wife. :(
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I didn't see hate in the OP. (And Willie knows hate.)
Nuthin wrong with anger & disappointment at such a turn of events.
 
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Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm sorry to hear that, its not easy dealing with disappointments like this.

Perhaps you can try to focus your energy on this part:

Who knows what is next?

Cause thats precisely the case :)

Things might work out like you wanted them to eventually, or even better.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Thanks Badran, you are right.

We can't know what is 'good or bad' when it's happening because it's all relative.

It's a chance to feel challenged and concentrate on practicing peace.
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
So sorry to hear that. Perhaps there is another way. If you were now working because you were pregnant with you wife's child would they let you in (get my gist there bro). :(
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
At the Border:

The issue was 'I wasn't on my own permit.'

That is, I was 'riding' my Wife's permits, which We thought was completely ok...
And inline with the process.....

But apparently her new permit doesn't facilitate me due to the way they calculated her rank in her category...

This was wrong... however to appeal it costs money... and IF I did get one and she was ranked fairly... it's be a lot of money for just a year's permitting.

I did get a 3 year 'visitor pass'
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I'm thankful for sure... but the agent intended that I'll find work and get a contract that I can THEN take and submit for a work permit... more money.... who know what length of contract I'll have...

Just not working out so well....


Moving onward:

Via some talk on here I had a brain storm.

Having my own permit will make it easier for her to get Permanent Residence and for us to stay.


This is what is going to happen:

Going rogue doesn't exactly do a lot for me in staying here legally and permanently someday.

My Wife is basically being recruited to a college in Northern Maine.
I mean like asking her if they can meet me at the interview as well so that they can help me start looking for work and want to give us student housing for free until we find a place to live.

This doesn't sound like a maybe to us really.... they WANT her.

The school year lasts until June and obviously schools start up again in Late August...

In that time I'm going to do some career counseling and start applying to some college programs in Canada.

I have always wanted to go to college and get some more credentials to do what I'd like to be doing rather than feeling stuck or have to's so much...

I'm looking to get some higher certs. to be able to work with and manage people that help those in need and living on the streets.

This is actually better for us in some screwed up way.
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We just have to move. For now.

So here we go:

We DID want to get the hell out of Toronto anyways... bad enough I'll go state side for a year

This is a spurring on to live intentionally and do something good with my life.

So I am.

I'll believe we'll back in Canada in Sept 2012.

And in that time I'll just live in lovely Maine hopefully or somewhere else.
For a year, it'll be practically like a working vacation.



I want to LIVE the dream, not bend over backward grasping for it with $$$/permits or doing anything illegal.



Thanks for the Love, thought and hard advice folks.





Love
~SageTree~
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Keep trying. Eventually we will be rid of these bloody immigrant-hating Conservatives - they've had a major impact. You and your wife can take different application routes. She should stay and work toward citizenship - if you move back to the US for too long you may have to start over later. You can take a holiday over the border every 6 months until your own permanent residency comes through.

I am so sorry to hear it hasn't worked out. My partner and I went through this, as well as three of my close friends. Two are a couple - he had a work permit that only allowed him to work for the company that employs him here and his wife could apply for permanent residency (and work anywhere) because he was employed here. Strange situation, but the point is that they took two different tracks, and they both just received their cards after a year of waiting. So did my partner - 9 months.

Stick it out and don't give up - you'll be glad you did. Again - sorry for my stupid government.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Keep trying. Eventually we will be rid of these bloody immigrant-hating Conservatives - they've had a major impact. You and your wife can take different application routes. She should stay and work toward citizenship - if you move back to the US for too long you may have to start over later. You can take a holiday over the border every 6 months until your own permanent residency comes through.

I am so sorry to hear it hasn't worked out. My partner and I went through this, as well as three of my close friends. Two are a couple - he had a work permit that only allowed him to work for the company that employs him here and his wife could apply for permanent residency (and work anywhere) because he was employed here. Strange situation, but the point is that they took two different tracks, and they both just received their cards after a year of waiting. So did my partner - 9 months.

Stick it out and don't give up - you'll be glad you did. Again - sorry for my stupid government.

Thanks for the support. Good to know We're not alone... too bad it's not all just easy though :D

I DO at this time have a 3 year visitor permit.... but I can't do ANYTHING here other than eat, sleep, shop and sh**.... also, I don't think that will look that great on any PR/Citizenship paper work....

So probably not doing that route...



My Wife's work permit is until Sept 2014 and is an open-post grad.

It may or may not be good when we come back in a year. (Sept 2012)


On the other hand:

I will get a student visa, provided I'm accepted into a college.

At which point, my Wife, if nothing else exists with her other permit, would get an open work permit 100% like I did when we came here on HER study permit.

Her 'time worked' in Canada can be called up within five years time, and actually she almost has enough to apply for PR, but not enough yet.

After a year here on a student permit for me, she'll be able to apply for PR.

I'm not sure if spouses are included on the PR permit or what...
I think they are allow to sponsor a person if I'm not mistaken.
But if not, I'll be studying and staying while she goes through the process.

Long story short.... We WILL have some kind of permit to stay here next year,
BOTH of us...
Her work/school ,in Canada, experience as to the PR thing in the bag it would seem, just need some more time yet...

Living apart is NOT going to happen.
We did that when we moved from BC to Toronto and it was hell for us..
Life is just too short for that crap, in other words.

We'll enjoy a year 'abroad' even though we'll be back in the 'motherland'.


Thanks again for your supportive words and I look forward to what the year will bring and how we'll be enjoying our time while we're "out of town".


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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I am disappointed to hear this, Sagetree. As Alceste and others have said, don't give up.

Come to B.C. and try again.
 
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