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And Now -- Presenting for your amusement -- HHS Director RFK!

Riders

Well-Known Member
What about drug addiction? RFK is a recovering heroin addict, when he was running for president he said he would have addiction treatment centers built and new laws to legalize drugs and get addicts out of prison?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
@Clizby Wampuscat has said -- about Trump, and now about Gaetz -- that "allegations" (lots of them, well attested) have not been "proven," and so he's good with them in these high power jobs.

I'd ask Clizby this: if the monsignor at the Catholic Church specifically asked for his attractive, 13-year old son to be an altar boy, and there are serious allegations about this particular monsignor, is he content that since the allegations haven't been proven that his son should go for the "private lessons" the monsignor suggests? If there's an allegation of sexual abuse at the daycare he's planning to send his kids to, but that have not been proven, would he have no qualms about sending his kids?

Okay, we're not talking about kids here -- we're talking about the nation! We are talking about putting so much power into the hands of persons against whom a very large bunch of "allegations" have been attested. But, since they haven't been "proven," well, yeah -- let's hand the country over. What could possibly go wrong, eh?
Of course I would not. But if the day care was accused of making a wrong entry in a tax form, then I would not have a problem with it. Or if one parent has accused 6 other daycares of abuse in the past without any evidence, then I would be ok with it. Biden was accused of sexual assault, influence peddling, mishandling confidential material (was guilty of actually) etc. and you don't seem to have a problem with him being president. So is it the accusations or the politics that you are repelled by?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I am not sold on RFK for Jr for this position but some of the objections I have seen have been inaccurate. What are your objections?

-He has no medical or other health related qualifications.

-His vaccination misinformation (I said the word again, @Twilight Hue !).

-He seems to buy into conspiracy-based thinking such as "chemtrails."

-He seems to latch on to health-related theories that have no scientific backing, like flouride and diseases and there being no link between HIV and AIDs.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Of course I would not. But if the day care was accused of making a wrong entry in a tax form, then I would not have a problem with it. Or if one parent has accused 6 other daycares of abuse in the past without any evidence, then I would be ok with it.
Well, no false accusation is something to be OK with. But accusations need some degree of evidence to be legally pursued. It would be suspicious if one parent made accusations against 6 different daycare cenetrs, and there were no other accusations. Logic suggests it is a parent problem.
Biden was accused of sexual assault,
And that woman's credibility has since been highly questioned. Trump was ajudicated as a sexual preditor. He's had 26 accusations of sexual assault, and a 27th just before the election. He's on an audio recording bragging about sexually assaulting women.
influence peddling,
If you are referring to claims that he was involved with Hunter Biden then there is no credibility behind these. Trump is known to have violated the emoluments clause in the constitution, but no one in congress would pursue accountability.
mishandling confidential material (was guilty of actually) etc.
Which was a few documents, and something that Mike pence had hapven too. These weren't deliberate and explained as mistakes made by staffers. This differs dramaticall from what Trump did deliberately, and after the FBI had opened an investigation.
and you don't seem to have a problem with him being president.
Because there's no intent of criminality done by Biden. But Trump? Already convicted of 34 counts, and facing 60 more in cases that will go away ONLY because he was elected. If Trump ran for president on planet Vulcan he would get zero votes. Vulcans would say voting for Trump "Is illogical." They would be correct. There is no rational basis to have voted for Trump. No rational mind decided voting for Trump was smart.
So is it the accusations or the politics that you are repelled by?
In Trump's cases there is more than just accusations, there is so much evidence that he was indicted by grand jurioes, and convicted on all counts by a jury. A rational mind would take these facts into consideration when deciding who to vote for. Trump voters did not. There was no rational basis to select Trump for president. Apart from Rubio his picks illustrate how mentally incompetent he is.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Well, no false accusation is something to be OK with. But accusations need some degree of evidence to be legally pursued. It would be suspicious if one parent made accusations against 6 different daycare cenetrs, and there were no other accusations. Logic suggests it is a parent problem.

And that woman's credibility has since been highly questioned. Trump was ajudicated as a sexual preditor. He's had 26 accusations of sexual assault, and a 27th just before the election. He's on an audio recording bragging about sexually assaulting women.

If you are referring to claims that he was involved with Hunter Biden then there is no credibility behind these. Trump is known to have violated the emoluments clause in the constitution, but no one in congress would pursue accountability.

Which was a few documents, and something that Mike pence had hapven too. These weren't deliberate and explained as mistakes made by staffers. This differs dramaticall from what Trump did deliberately, and after the FBI had opened an investigation.

Because there's no intent of criminality done by Biden. But Trump? Already convicted of 34 counts, and facing 60 more in cases that will go away ONLY because he was elected. If Trump ran for president on planet Vulcan he would get zero votes. Vulcans would say voting for Trump "Is illogical." They would be correct. There is no rational basis to have voted for Trump. No rational mind decided voting for Trump was smart.

In Trump's cases there is more than just accusations, there is so much evidence that he was indicted by grand jurioes, and convicted on all counts by a jury. A rational mind would take these facts into consideration when deciding who to vote for. Trump voters did not. There was no rational basis to select Trump for president. Apart from Rubio his picks illustrate how mentally incompetent he is.
I have heard the media talking points and insults before. I have responded to these many times. Have a nice day.
 
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