Angelogical/Demonological Fallacies

[FFH]

Sojourner, In LDS theology most will become angels (servants to God), but many will accept the "fullness" of the Father, or the "fullness" of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will become Gods, or equal with God, having all that the father hath, and will henceforth not be called angels, but Gods.

Replace the word pawn with the word servant. We are all servants to God, at this point, and many will be for eternity.

LDS theology teaches that we may become more than a servant to God, but can become equal with God.

 

[sojourner]

Sojourner, In LDS theology most will become angels (servants to God), but many will accept the "fullness" of the Father, or the "fullness" of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will become Gods, or equal with God, having all that the father hath, and will henceforth not be called angels, but Gods.

Replace the word pawn with the word servant. We are all servants to God, at this point, and many will be for eternity.

LDS theology teaches that we may become more than a servant to God, but can become equal with God.

I don't accept LDS theology.

How can we replace the word "pawn" with "servant?" They're two completely different things.

 

[Mister_T]

That's okay hun, I don't mind. As a minister, it's what I do. Just bear with me because I'm human too. Did I manage to answer your questions?

Yep. I'm good.

 

[sojourner]

depending on if they're Holy or Fallen.

Your terminology is distressing me. "Holy" is not the opposite of "fallen." "Holy" simply means "set apart." Are not the fallen ones "set apart" from God?

The separation is those people who have "bad" hearts and those who have "good" hearts.

God is not about separation. God is about unity. God created all things good. Therefore, all hearts are good. We may cover those good hearts with shams of evil, but once we stand face-to-face with God, will we not see, in that perfect light (where there is no darkness) the falseness of our evil? Isn't that divine judgment?

 

[sojourner]

I agree with you too Becky. The only thing is that this information is not coming from me but through me. It's really coming from the Cherubic Order of Angels and they do NOT misinterpret the Scriptures.

And since you're human, could you not misinterpret and/or mistranslate the information that comes through you?

The grossest example of misinterpretation that I can see is the fixation here on the "end times." Jesus told us not to worry about that, but rather to embrace abundant life right now.

 

[FFH]

I don't accept LDS theology.

How can we replace the word "pawn" with "servant?" They're two completely different things.

I'm not saying the word servant is equivalent to the word pawn. The word Pawn suggests there is no free agency on the part of the angel or individual. All I'm saying is it would be better to use the word servant to describe the role of an angel, because they have their free agency to refuse to be servants. Angels are servants to God, not pawns not having free agency, for they have their free agency, and can exercise it, and can refuse to be servants. The reason they are willing servants is because it is better, and more gloriious a reward, to be a servant to God, than spend eternity elsewhere.

 

[sojourner]

I'm not saying the word servant is equivalent to the word pawn. The word Pawn suggests there is no free agency on the part of the angel or individual. All I'm saying is it would be better to use the word servant to describe the role of an angel, because they have their free agency to refuse to be servants. Angels are servants to God, not pawns not having free agency, for they have their free agency, and can exercise it, and can refuse to be servants. The reason they are willing servants is because it is better, and more gloriious a reward, to be a servant to God, than spend eternity elsewhere.

I agree, but we're not talking about angels here -- we're talking about earthly humanity. I'm refuting Sasa's statement that humans are merely pawns in a big chess game. That's not what we were created for.

 

[Snowbear]

Okay. I know what I did and please pardon my mistake - I think my mind was on overload earlier with all the questions. I was saying Resurrected but thinking Ascended.

No problem

Christ first ascended to his Father before anyone else could. That's all I'm able to comment on this subject because it really goes beyond the primary message(s) they want us to give.

Yeah, sometimes threads take tangents... people pick up on something that's said and it brings up another question ~ As you can see in this thread, there are several discussions going on

 

[gnostic]

Wouldn't Shekhinah do for the Holy Ghost?

Possibly, but not all Jews believed in Shekhinah, do they?

The vast majority of Jews will accept Jesus Christ as their savior, at a later date, scriptures prophecy this.

Many of the disciples of Jesus were Jews from the beginning, but there was in the early stages of Christianity. So I can agree with that argument of Jews become Christian back then.

However, I find it unacceptable at this point to link with Jews and Christians together, now and the last 1600 years. Your prophecy of Jews accepting Christ, is one that can't be substantiated and moot point.

To the Jews, Jesus has never been their Messiah, and they have no such prophecy of Jesus. Your prophecies, particularly the ones found in the OT, are Christian interpretations, and Jews don't agreed with any of NT interpretations of OT prophecies.