Angels and Demons

[theonepaladin]

Demons are on Earth, and therefore, angels are as a counterbalance. When a demon interferes with a human's free will, an angel is sent to destroy it.

When Baptism is administered, a guardian angel is assigned to that person.
When a satanic ritual is preformed, a demon is assigned to that person.

God is Almighty, and has Given us Free Will to choose good or evil. In order for that Free Will to be 100% our choice, everything is balanced.

Demons have a set of rules to follow, or God annhilates them from existance. They can only enter when somebody lets them, but cannot interact with any human that doesn't want to legally.

If any demon breaks a law, and makes itself known, an angel is sent to destroy it. Angels are assigned to protect His People from these demons.

Jesus cast out many demons, just as priests exercize them today, but the exercisims remain private and a secret from the public.

I am an angelologist, refered to as a "Paladin".
Some people are demonologists, refered to as luciferians, wiccans, shamans, druids, and so on.
All priests and men of the clergy who are chosen by God know of this.

By saying this on the forum, I am acting as a counterbalance for demonologists who teach others their ways.

 

[Nepenthe]

To quote Father Heathen, "You people just keep pushing the kookiness envelope."

 

[YmirGF]

Demons are on Earth, and therefore, angels are as a counterbalance. When a demon interferes with a human's free will, an angel is sent to destroy it.

What are they sent to destroy, the human's free will or the demon?

When Baptism is administered, a guardian angel is assigned to that person. When a satanic ritual is preformed, a demon is assigned to that person.

I guess it is asking too much for independently verifiable proof of this.

Demons have a set of rules to follow, or God annhilates them from existance. They can only enter when somebody lets them, but cannot interact with any human that doesn't want to legally.

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of the Demon's guide to interacting with human animals available for our perusal, would you? I should have known that lawyers would be involved in this. Go figure.

If any demon breaks a law, and makes itself known, an angel is sent to destroy it. Angels are assigned to protect His People from these demons.

The angel comes to destroy the law or the demon? You would think we would have noticed some of these angel/demon interactions over the course of human history. They must be very subtle indeed.

Jesus cast out many demons, just as priests exercize them today, but the exercisims remain private and a secret from the public.

As a supposed expert on this sort of thing I would expect you to know that the word you wish to utilize here is exorcise. Exorcisms are performed by an exorcist. Unless, of course, you were meaning that priests dress demons in little track suits and make them do laps to keep in shape, in which case, I take all this back.

I am an angelologist, refered to as a "Paladin".

So, you are an expert on angels then? How many have you personally met? Do you see them often?

Some people are demonologists, refered to as luciferians, wiccans, shamans, druids, and so on.

It might be helpful for you to spend a bit of time researching "luciferians, wiccans, shamans, druids" in order that you may understand that your assertion is a hair's breadth above that of a raving lunatic, though, in saying that, I might be being just a bit too generous.

All priests and men of the clergy who are chosen by God know of this.

I'll believe this if Angellous_evangellous says it is true. (He is my daddy!)

By saying this on the forum, I am acting as a counterbalance for demonologists who teach others their ways.

Given that I don't think we have actually run into a demonologist as you put it, so sadly, you aren't counterbalancing much, though I will wait for Angellous_evangellous to weigh in on the matter.

 

[Draka]

Okay, I might as well come out with it. My name is Jennifer...and I am a demon. I have a dark and evil mission in this world to corrupt as many as I can away from god. I have a problem and am willing to acknowledge it and get help.








:sarcastic

 

[YmirGF]

Okay, I might as well come out with it. My name is Jennifer...and I am a demon. I have a dark and evil mission in this world to corrupt as many as I can away from god. I have a problem and am willing to acknowledge it and get help.








:sarcastic

*Tosses Lady Draka a Christian to feed on*

There, there... don't take on so, Draka.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Thanks for inviting me to the thread, Paul.

My two cents are these...

1) I have a respect for evil and the power of its destructiveness on both a personal and national level.

2) I really like Mel Gibson's portrayal of the demonic in the "Passion." I would love to know who advised him to have innocent and harmless children play deceptive and deadly demons. Very, very compelling.

Anyway, because of what I call respect for the power of evil, I don't mess around with "demons." As a Christian minister and scholar, my focus will be on God, who is terrible enough as she is.

 

[Draka]

*Tosses Lady Draka a Christian to feed on*

There, there... don't take on so, Draka.

Now is that a "True Christian" or one of those "Liberal" ones? "True Christians" tend to give me indigestion. The "Liberal" ones are tasty enough but I often find they leave something lacking, like I'm hungry again an hour later.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

I have not seen any demon lately.
I have not seen any demon for as long as i am capable of remembering.
I have not seen anybody else that verifiably has seen a demon, which means I have not seen any proof for a demon by anyone.

Looking at the supposed powers of demons i do not see any resemblence with any other living being on earth, nor do i know of any scientific theories explaining so called demons and their powerse.

Thus i conclude that there is no reason to believe in demons as long as no evidence arises that shows me otherwise.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Given that I don't think we have actually run into a demonologist as you put it, so sadly, you aren't counterbalancing much, though I will wait for Angellous_evangellous to weigh in on the matter.

Oh yes, he's mistaking someone who likes demons (I guess) for someone who studies them.

In many traditions, including the Greco-Roman ones that inspired the New Testament, demons were considered something like a non-moral demigod. Kinda like a Britney Spears not-really-a-girl and not-yet-a-woman. Only the demons were not really a god and not really ghost or something. They could do good or bad things for you.

In the New Testament, demons pretty much take on an evil character. They are basically lower-level spiritual beings that do the bidding of Satan.

Yes, I believe that the characterization of evil in the demonic form is useful and appropriate, as long as it does no harm (e.g., exorcisms by unqualified folks).

 

[theonepaladin]

I'm back again to this thread! I feel honored that somebody quoted me too... Wait... Is he calling me insane? Thats one thing he got right then!

Okay... You don't believe me. Go look up luciferianism then... I think a branch of it uses demons as "tools". Then come on back.

Why don't people know about all of this?
Actually, alot do, its just that most fear the enemy and go cower in a corner somewhere, or go into a dark room to talk with their "friends".

Priests preform exorcisms, but they tell the families to not go and make it public. Although, in today's day and age priests preform house-blessing "services" to protect those who live in the house.

Have I seen any angels?
Yes and no. I live with angels, and few people can "see" them. The people who can actually "see" them are called "the Enlightened", but anybody can feel an angel's or a demon's presence. Alot of angels even still only reside in Heaven. They are all over the Bible. If you want a Catholic's teaching on angels, look up the "Summa Theologica" written by St. Thomas Aquinas, I believe he explains some angel behavior and ranks around #108. If you want a Biblical account Psalm 91:11, all of Revelations, and MANY other mentions are in the Bible. If you want an older text, read the Book of Enoch, the Liber Loagaoth, and any writtings by Dr. John Dee. If you like Kiona Reeves (probably mispelled) watch the loosely-based movie: Constantine.

I HIGHLY suggest you don't go and read any Luciferian books, no offense to anybody. Don't read any books written by the Occult. Don't read any Satanism books.

Only the angels and demons decide who becomes "Enlightened".

THIS IS NOT FOR ANY CHILDREN, OR ANYBODY UNDER THE AGE OF 15-16.

If you are interested, please contact me before you do anything other than read the books I suggested.

If you want to learn about the Divine Angels, PM me, or email me at: [email protected] .

 

[Draka]

Ahh, but even the enlightened must still shave the yak.

 

[blackout]

I HIGHLY suggest you don't go and read any Luciferian books, no offense to anybody. Don't read any books written by the Occult. Don't read any Satanism books.

Only the angels and demons decide who becomes "Enlightened".

THIS IS NOT FOR ANY CHILDREN, OR ANYBODY UNDER THE AGE OF 15-16.

If you are interested, please contact me before you do anything other than read the books I suggested.

If you want to learn about the Divine Angels, PM me, or email me at: [email protected] .

You are..... amusing ohh so far beyond the realm of words..... :areyoucra


*Looks at bookshelves*.:cover:
How come I don't have any books written by the Occult?
:149:
Everyone else has all the good books!

 

[theonepaladin]

You are..... amusing ohh so far beyond the realm of words..... :areyoucra


*Looks at bookshelves*.:cover:
How come I don't have any books written by the Occult?
:149:
Everyone else has all the good books!

You call them "good" books. The irony would be humorous if it weren't that some humans possess Grimwares (probably misspelled) and other books.

God Bless,
-Paladin

 

[Azakel]

You call them "good" books. The irony would be humorous if it weren't that some humans possess Grimwares (probably misspelled) and other books.

God Bless,
-Paladin

Grimoire is that right way. And there's no irony to it. I have a few book like that here, you should get one and read it, Book of Lies is a good one.
The way I say this thread though and the reason I stayed away is because it seemed like the OPer way of bashing the Japanese, and that what I get from it is what seemed like racism to me. There I said it :run:

 

[angellous_evangellous]

For what it's worth, I can't imagine the advantage of knowing anything about angels and demons. If they do exist, angels have a mission from God that they hopefully won't deviate from, and if they do, we're helpless.

And I don't care what demons are doing. If they're out there, they feed on evil.

Focusing all our energy on the good is the best thing for us.

 

[Azakel]

For what it's worth, I can't imagine the advantage of knowing anything about angels and demons. If they do exist, angels have a mission from God that they hopefully won't deviate from, and if they do, we're helpless.

And I don't care what demons are doing. If they're out there, they feed on evil.

Focusing all our energy on the good is the best thing for us.

But Angels and Demons are also shown to be in many more Cultures and Religions then just Christianity and Christianity doesn't own them. There are a lot of things one can have some advantage knowing about them both. One mistake I think people have is Angels=Good Demon=Evil.
Edit: I should add that this is mostly my own personal opinion and the subject.

 

[Draka]

You call them "good" books. The irony would be humorous if it weren't that some humans possess Grimwares (probably misspelled) and other books.

God Bless,
-Paladin

I write in my own BOS/EBOS (book of shadows/electronic book of shadows) but I don't know if I've ever referred to them as "good books". I call great works of fiction "good books" though...so perhaps the bible does qualify being called that after all.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

But Angels and Demons are also shown to be in many more Cultures and Religions then just Christianity and Christianity doesn't own them. There are a lot of things one can have some advantage knowing about them both. One mistake I think people have is Angels=Good Demon=Evil.
Edit: I should add that this is mostly my own personal opinion and the subject.

Of course, I'm talking about the Christian variety as per the OP.

 

[theonepaladin]

Good for you! :angel2:

That is what a normal human should do. It becomes different when you are born with a Gift, but I wasn't. I am a Disciple of the Angels, a Paladin.

As time goes on, the demons of the world, and the next become larger in numbers, some people take advantage of this by using those demons for evil, because demons have rules to follow, otherwise a Slayer Angel, Executor, or a Beholder is sent to exterminate it. Demons are crafty, they have learned to work through men, thereforevwe have demonologists, the demons' students, and the other demon-users, who some claim to be.

I am an angelologist as well as a Paladin of Truth, I have chosen to be one, as the angels chose me. I am a counter-balance to evil's growing legion, and I teach God's Eternal Wisdom to all, in order to balance evil's influence on people.


God Bless,
-Paladin :angel2:

 

[Azakel]

Of course, I'm talking about the Christian variety as per the OP.

I know. Your smart, I didn't mean to sound as if I was saying other was ^_^