Angry Atheist Has Her Say

[Wotan]

And take these on - if you can.

I get angry when religious believers insist that their interpretation of their religion and religious text is the right one, and that fellow believers with an opposite interpretation clearly have it wrong. I get angry when believers insist that the parts about Jesus's prompt return and all prayers being answered are obviously not meant literally... but the parts about hell and damnation and gay sex being an abomination, that's real. And I get angry when believers insist that the parts about hell and damnation and gay sex being an abomination aren't meant literally, but the parts about caring for the poor are really what God meant. How do they know which parts of the Bible/ Torah/ Koran/ Bhagavad-Gita/ whatever God really meant, and which parts he didn't? And if they don't know, if they're just basing it on their own moral instincts and their own perceptions of the world, then on what basis are they thinking that God and their sacred texts have anything to do with it at all? What right do they have to act as if their opinion is the same as God's and he's totally backing them up on it?

 

[Midnight Pete]

I have actually heard a priest (not my old priest, but another one) say that a woman should stay with an abusive husband, and if he kills her, she'll be a martyr.

That's terrible!

This woman, did she live in the 1800s or in the present day?

 

[Wotan]

That's terrible!

This woman, did she live in the 1800s or in the present day?

Why would that matter? These mythologies claim to to be the The Truth, THE only Truth and THE Complete Truth. And are universally applicable as time place and person.

Now if you actually believe that - when a comment was made doesn't matter.

So maybe you don't actually BELIEVE your mythology?

 

[Midnight Pete]

And take these on - if you can.

I get angry when religious believers insist that their interpretation of their religion and religious text is the right one, and that fellow believers with an opposite interpretation clearly have it wrong. I get angry when believers insist that the parts about Jesus's prompt return and all prayers being answered are obviously not meant literally... but the parts about hell and damnation and gay sex being an abomination, that's real. And I get angry when believers insist that the parts about hell and damnation and gay sex being an abomination aren't meant literally, but the parts about caring for the poor are really what God meant. How do they know which parts of the Bible/ Torah/ Koran/ Bhagavad-Gita/ whatever God really meant, and which parts he didn't? And if they don't know, if they're just basing it on their own moral instincts and their own perceptions of the world, then on what basis are they thinking that God and their sacred texts have anything to do with it at all? What right do they have to act as if their opinion is the same as God's and he's totally backing them up on it?

Was that a variation on Richard Dawkins' "I Am Offended When" speech?

 

[Wotan]

Was that a variation on Richard Dawkins' "I Am Offended When" speech?

Was that as pathetic an answer as you are able to conjure up?

 

[Jeremiah]

There are so many things for legitimate anger in this world. Who has the time?

"Who has the time?"

That's why I allot the responsibility to others. There are just tons of people out there ready and willing to be angry for you, about anything you want to be angry about. And the best part is they'll do it free of charge, with no hands on management!!

 

[linwood]

Interesting blog here. Long, but she did say it was her personal rant.

I though she was dead ON. And RIGHT to be angry.

Wow, she`s REALLY ****** off!

That makes me happy.

 

[Gloone]

Interesting blog here. Long, but she did say it was her personal rant.

I though she was dead ON. And RIGHT to be angry.

Wow Atheist are driven by hate and anger. What is new?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I thought that was for the most part a very well put together rant. I wasn't expecting much, as usually the anger at religion is mostly just people angry that they feel robbed of their lives once they deconvert, but most people get over that once they realize they can live there own life free of the former religion's dogma. But her rant brought up some very valid points. Although really the Galileo thing is rather absurd given it happened so long ago and holds so very little relevance today. Well, except for that one Catholic group that has stated they still think Galileo was wrong. It reminds me of black people who are sue white people today because their ancestors who they most likely never had the chance to meet owned their ancestors as slaves. I also thought the Mother Teresa thing was rather iffy, as the suffering she saw probably had a tremendous psychological impact on her. But I really liked the "cosmic shopping list" that she labeled the average prayer.
But I also thought alot of her anger is misplaced. Much of what she is angry over should rather be seen as an opportunity to educate those who really don't know or understand. Now of course you can't make everyone listen, but more and more people are. Also the 40some percent of people who would vote for an atheist as President I find to be a very good thing, as it's showing the grip religion has on America is indeed weakening.
Some of it was very valid, but alot of it was misplaced. Such as the Jesus fish eating the Darwin fish. I see no reason for anger over a personal expression like that. There is one lady here who drives a car that is literally covered from top to bottom, bumper to bumper, with various Christian and Republican stickers. I bet that would do more than just "anger" the author of that blog.

 

[Smoke]

That's terrible!

This woman, did she live in the 1800s or in the present day?

The remark was made in the 1980s in the United States. The priest in question was, believe it or not, a very kindly man. But his ideas were informed by religion. He believed marriage was a sacred bond that should not be broken. He believed in life after death, and he believed that those who were faithful in life would be rewarded after death. He believed that it was a greater tragedy to lose faith than to be killed, and that the faithful Christian shouldn't place a trivial thing like personal safety over something as momentous as the mystery of holy matrimony.

When some of the women present objected, he did say that a mother has a duty to protect her children, and that if her husband also abused the children, she might have to take the children and leave in order to protect them.

He was, as I say, a very kindly man. I liked him. But he sincerely believed that faithfulness was better than safety, and a martyr's crown better than earthly life. Sometimes religion can make even kind people do and say shocking things.

 

[Man of Faith]

If God appeared to that lady, she would get angry that it took him so long and explode.

 

[Meow Mix]

If God appeared to that lady, she would get angry that it took him so long and explode.

lol. Frubal'd

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Although really the Galileo thing is rather absurd given it happened so long ago and holds so very little relevance today. Well, except for that one Catholic group that has stated they still think Galileo was wrong.

The Catholic Church still hasn't apologized for what it did to Giordano Bruno.

And I'd say that both incidents are relevant as long as the Church claims that every single one of the doctrines of the past since the founding of the Church are still just as true, valid and in effect today.

 

[Midnight Pete]

No one wears that martyr's crown better than you, Smoke.

 

[JustWondering]

Wow Atheist are driven by hate and anger. What is new?

Humans are driven by hate and anger. Regardless of how they justify their actions, a jerk is a jerk. Even without religion do you think human history would not be full of atrocities and injustices? We are hardwired with an Us vs. Them mentality and thrive on conflict. Humans are angry, competitive, violent, greedy, self-absorbed animals. That will not change regardless of what people decide to believe.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Humans are driven by hate and anger. Regardless of how they justify their actions, a jerk is a jerk. Even without religion do you think human history would not be full of atrocities and injustices? We are hardwired with an Us vs. Them mentality and thrive on conflict. Humans are angry, competitive, violent, greedy, self-absorbed animals. That will not change regardless of what people decide to believe.

This whole paragraph is 100% truth.

 

[Walkntune]

I was angry that she was angry about our fish(Christian Symbol) eating the fish representing evolution.It was our symbol first!

 

[Smoke]

No one wears that martyr's crown better than you, Smoke.

You don't know me.

 

[waitasec]

Jesus said not to divorce, but I doubt seriously that He would want us to stay in an abusive relationship. Sometimes we have to read between the lines. And other times we need have some common sense.

straight from the horses mouth...
gen 3:16
women were to be ruled by men

 

[waitasec]

Wow Atheist are driven by hate and anger. What is new?

so are extremist christians
nothing new there either