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Aniconic Hinduism?

Onkara

Well-Known Member
Hi
This could be considered as Adi Shankara's explanation of icon-ess or formless worship, pasted below, from this site Nirguna Manasa Puja | Vedanta Spiritual Library.

The disciple said:
1. In the indivisible Satchidananda whose nature is only unconditioned, and which is also the non-dual state, how is worship prescribed?
2. Where is the invocation (avahana) of the Fullness, and the seat (asana) of the All-supporting How is there washing of the feet (padya), offering of water (arghya) and sipping (achamana) for the limpid and Pure One?
3. How is there bathing (snana) for the Immaculate, and clothing (vasa) for the womb of the universe? How is there a sacred thread (upavita) for Him who is without lineage and caste?
4. How is there sandal paste (gandha) for the Unattached, and flowers (pushpa) for the Odorless? What is the jewel (bhusha) of the Undifferentiated? What ornament (alamkara) for the Formless?
5. What use of incense (dhupa) for the Spotless, or of lamps (dipa) for the Witness of everything? What is here the food-offering (naivedyam) for Him who is satiated only with His own bliss?
6-7. How does one prepare betel (tambula) for the Rejoicer of the universe? He whose nature is self-luminous consciousness, that Illuminator of the sun and other stars, who is sung by shrutis, how is there for Him the light- waving ceremony (nirajana) What circumambulation (pradakshina) for the Infinite? What prostration (pranama) for the non-dual Reality?
8. For Him who is unknowable by the words of the Vedas, what praise (stotra) is prescribed? How is there the ceremony of dismissal (udavasana) for Him who is established inside and outside?

The Guru said:
9. I worship the symbol of the Self (atmalinga) shining like a jewel and situated in the heart-lotus within the city of illusion, with the ablutions (abhisheka) of the unsullied mind from the river of faith, always, with the flowers of samadhi, for the sake of non-rebirth.
10. I am the One, the Ultimate. Thus one should invoke (avahayet) Lord Siva. Then one should prepare the seat (asana), that is thinking of the self-established Self.
11. I have no contact with the dust of virtue and sin. Thus should the wise one offer washing of the fet (padya), that is such knowledge destroying all sins.
12. One should pour forth tha handful of water which is the root - ignorance held from time without beginning. This is verily the water- offering (arghya) of the symbol of the Self.
13. Indra and other beings drink only the tiny fraction of a drop from the waves of the bliss ocean of Brahman. That meditation is considered as the sipping (achamana).
14. All the worlds are bathed verily by the water of Brahma's bliss which is indivisible. That meditation is the ablution (abhishechana) of the Self.
15. I am the light of Consciousness without any veil. This thinking is the holy cloth (sad vastram) of the symbol of the Self. Thus should think the wise one.
16. I am the thread of the garland of all the worlds which are in the nature of the three gunas. This conviction is verily considered here as the highest sacred thread (upavIta).
17. This manifold world mingled with numerous impressions is supported by me, and by no other. This meditation is the sandal paste (chandana) of the Self.
18. With the sesamum-flowers in the form of renunciation of the activity of sattva, rajas, and tamas, one should always worship (yajet) the symbol of the Self, for attaing liberation while living.
19. With the non-dual Bel leaves devoid of the triple distinction between the Lord, the guru, and the Self, one should worship (yajet) Lord Siva that is symbol of the Self.
20. One should think of His incense (dhupa) as the giving up of all impressions. The wise one should show the lamp (dipa) that is the realization of the luminous Self.
21. The food-offering (naivedyam) of the symbol of the Self is the big rice pudding known as the egg-universe of Brahma. Do drink the sweet nectar of bliss that is the delightful beverage (upasechana) of Mrityu or Lord Siva.
22. One should remember that cleansing the remnants of ignorance with the water of knowledge, is the washing of hands (hasta prakshalana) of the pure symbol of the Self.
23. Giving up the use of the objects of passion, this is the chewing of betel (tambula) of Lord Siva, the supreme Self who is devoid of the attributes beginning with passion.
24. Knowledge on one's own nature of Brahman, most shining, and burning to destruction the darkness of ignorance, that is here the waving of lights (nirajana) of the Self.
25. The vision of the manifold Brahman is the ornament (alamkritam) with garlands. Then one should remember the vision of the all- blissful nature of the Self, as the handful of flowers. (pushpanjali).
26. Thousands of Brahma's mundane eggs revolve in me, the Lord, whose nature is immovable and steady like a heap. This meditation is the circumambulation (pradakshina).
27. I am verily worthy of a universal salutation. Apart from my true Self, none is so worthy of salutation. This reflection is verily here the salutation (vandana) of the symbol of one's own Self.
28. The idea of the unreality of duties is termed as the saintly act (sat kriya) of the Self. Thinking of the Self as being beyond names and forms, this is the praise of his name (nama kirtana).
29. The hearing (shravana) of that God is the thought of the unreality of things to be heard of. The reflection (manana) of the symbol of the Self is the thought of the unreality of things to be reflected on.
30-31. Knowledge of the unreality of things to be contemplated upon, is the deep meditation (nididhyasana) of the Self. Devotedness to the Self by the absence of all delusion and distraction, is named the perfect steadiness (samadhi) of the Self; and not delusion of one whose mind rests on something else. This is called the eternal reposeof the mind (chitta vishranti) in Brahman itself.
32-33. Thus performing till death or even for a moment this worship of the symbols of one's own Self, which is expounded according to Vedanta, one who is well concentrated should give up the illusion of all bad impressions, as dust from the feet. Having shaken off the mass of ignorance and pain, one attains the bliss of liberation.
 

rcscwc

Member
I was just wondering if there are many people who profess the Hindu faith, but do not perform puja to any murti or representations (that includes shiva-linga, etc), so I decided to ask here.

Well, I dunno how to expand upon that, really. :D

Yes, a lot many. But do Hindus worship idols? NO. Idols are just a representation as SSGS is for Sikhs.
 

Satsangi

Active Member
Yes, a lot many. But do Hindus worship idols? NO. Idols are just a representation as SSGS is for Sikhs.

Sorry, but I have to disagree and correct this- Murthi is not a "representation" of God; but in the Bhakti path, the devotee serves the Murthi as he would serve the God. In all the Murthis of the temples, before it is worshipped, "Prana Pratishtha" is done by a Saint with the method as in the Vedas and the God is "established" in that Murthi. Daily, the Murthi is dressed, offered food, and rested as if it were God Himself. There are many such great temples in India where the devotees flock to have darshan of God; not God's "representation." Countless have experienced the God's grace in these temples. There is a huge difference between a Murthi and a simple idol of any other object. In the Bhagvad Gita, Lord Krishna says that He is always present in the Murthis of eight types ( stone, wood, metal, earthern, glass/crystal, gems, picture, mental) and in the Saint.

Regards,
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
This is an old thread and perhaps the OP does not require an answer now, but as I came across this on wikipedia I thought I would add it for common interest:

Pranami Sampraday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pramani Dharma refrains from idol worship. They recite hymns and verses from their holy book Kuljam Swarup a.k.a. Qulzam Swarup , to whom they worship and even the usual partaking of consecrated water (amiras), together with food offering or prasad, is not considered an essential part of ritual worship in the tradition.[1][2][3][4]

In their, temples, which are dedicated to Krishna but do not have his idols, ladies and gents sit in seprately to listen to the recitation of fragments of their holy scripture and singing devotional songs to the accompaniment of harmonium, drums (tabla and dholak) and small brass cymbals (manjiras).[1][2][3][4]

The religion is also called ad-mixture of Hindu & Muslim faiths due to certain aspects of both religion involved in their scripts and rituals and recitation from holy Quran and holy Bhagavat Gita both being done at their temples
 
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