Animals Can Be Giant Jerks

[Treks]

This short article Animals can be giant jerks | I ****ing Love Science talks about some things that some animals do which aren't in line with most human ethical standards; kidnapping, rape, ransom, necrophilia.

How does this article make you feel about the world, and your Creator (if you're religious)?
Does it suggest an 'evil' presence in the world?
Does it reaffirm your atheism (if you're non-religious)?
Do you think that it's one thing for an animal to kill and eat a baby animal, but something else entirely to rape it to death?
Do you think the animals who engage in some of these practices are being willfully malicious? Or they just can't help it?

And anything else you'd like to say.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

This just confirms my belief that the creator god is just one mean incompetent evil jerk.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't understand why this article is judging. Humans do all of the things described in that article, and plenty more. We're certainly no better. Do they enjoy it? Probably. Just like human rapists and killers derive pleasure from what they do. They probably have about as much free will in the matter as we do, especially if you're talking about highly intelligent animals like dolphins. What are we supposed to do? Put them on trial and lock them up? That's just part of life on this planet.

 

[Thana]

They're animals.. I doubt they're even capable of malicious intent.
They do what they do out of instinct, Not emotion.

So no, I don't think it's evil or suggestive of an evil presence in the world. Humans are the only one's who'll say 'That's bad! oh noes!'

 

[CynthiaCypher]

There are baboons that will kidnap wild dogs from their packs and raise them and keep them as slaves.

 

[Revoltingest]

I particularly hate vicunas. (There should be a tilda over the "n".)
They're so haughty...like they're so much better than I am that they
can barely deign to glance in my direction. And their braying is
in the style of that stilted Larchmont lockjaw exemplified by Thurston
Howell the 3rd & Lovee on Gilligan's Island.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

They're animals.. I doubt they're even capable of malicious intent.
They do what they do out of instinct, Not emotion.

Of course they do things out of emotion. My cats can be playing with each other and then it gets too rough, which makes the female angry and she'll start fighting for real. They get angry, sad, happy, depressed, grieve, feel guilty, embarrassed, have sympathy, etc. Haven't you ever owned a pet?

 

[Thana]

Of course they do things out of emotion. My cats can be playing with each other and then it gets too rough, which makes the female angry and she'll start fighting for real. They get angry, sad, happy, depressed, grieve, feel guilty, embarrassed, have sympathy, etc. Haven't you ever owned a pet?

Yes, But I'm talking about when they hunt, kill, 'rape' and other things like that. It's not emotion that drives them to it (Like hate or maliciousness) It's instinct.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes, But I'm talking about when they hunt, kill, 'rape' and other things like that. It's not emotion that drives them to it (Like hate or maliciousness) It's instinct.

Honestly, I don't know. I don't think any of us can really say since we're not viewing it from their perspective.

 

[StarryNightshade]

As far as I can see, what this article did was simply describe nature. We only project things like "evil" onto it, becasue we want an explaination for why these "cute"* animals would do these things.

It's just part of the natural world.

* I never found chimps, otters, or dolphins to be cute.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

As far as I can see, what this article did was simply describe nature. We only project things like "evil" onto it, becasue we want an explaination for why these "cute"* animals would do these things.

It's just part of the natural world.

* I never found chimps, otters, or dolphins to be cute.

So why do humans do the same things? Is that just part of the natural world too?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So why do humans do the same things? Is that just part of the natural world too?

Of course. We're animals and part of the natural world. "Good" and "evil" are just subjective value judgments.

 

[StarryNightshade]

So why do humans do the same things? Is that just part of the natural world too?

If you want to be technical, then yes.

We are animals, and sometimes we do some pretty horrible things to each other and other animals. The difference being that we have the cognition and ability to (at least try to) move beyond our more animalistic states. To try and better ourselves as a species. So far that part has been hit or miss.

Since we have developed an understanding of our own subjective experience as humans, we have come up with titles like "evil", and try to project such labels onto nature itself. Forgetting that we are a part of nature as well.

 

[outhouse]

I like my animals BBQ about med/med rare. marinating helps dramatically.


Don't care about their behavior.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I like my animals BBQ about med/med rare. marinating helps dramatically.


Don't care about their behavior.

Those evil ******** deserve to be BBQ'd

 

[DreadFish]

Yes, But I'm talking about when they hunt, kill, 'rape' and other things like that. It's not emotion that drives them to it (Like hate or maliciousness) It's instinct.

I dont think it's correct to assume that it's all out of instinct.

 

[DreadFish]

On a separate note, I ******* love that site. Thanks for sharing it!

 

[Thief]

This short article Animals can be giant jerks | I ******* Love Science talks about some things that some animals do which aren't in line with most human ethical standards; kidnapping, rape, ransom, necrophilia.

How does this article make you feel about the world, and your Creator (if you're religious)?
Does it suggest an 'evil' presence in the world?
Does it reaffirm your atheism (if you're non-religious)?
Do you think that it's one thing for an animal to kill and eat a baby animal, but something else entirely to rape it to death?
Do you think the animals who engage in some of these practices are being willfully malicious? Or they just can't help it?

And anything else you'd like to say.

So maybe this would be the cause for the garden event.
Change the body sufficiently in the hope of a better spirit?

I see Man as a species formed by evolution ......Day Six.
Days Seven....rest.....and no more will be created.

Chapter Two is a story of manipulation.
Man as a species would have overrun the planet in numbers long before any spiritual development would take hold.

So......an alteration.....the garden event.
And the specimens were released into the environment.

Of course, there are throwbacks.

 

[Madhuri]

If I believed in the Abrahamic God then I'd have some serious questions and probably feel highly conflicted.
But I don't, and so when I learn about the depravity in the world, it does not much influence my beliefs/perspective.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

If I believed in the Abrahamic God then I'd have some serious questions and probably feel highly conflicted.
But I don't, and so when I learn about the depravity in the world, it does not much influence my beliefs/perspective.

I believe in the Abrahamic God and I don't feel highly conflicted. Maybe because I believe that God is an evil jerk. In fact I blame the depravity of the world on God.

If the animals and us humans are depraved then just look at who made them. The fruit does not fall far from the tree.