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Another shooting fueled by an extreme right wing white supremacist

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher


When Trump was asked whether white nationalism was a problem Trump stated that it wasn't. Here, we have a shooter who killed several people including a 6 year-old boy who will never realize his potential.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying again that Trump's rhetoric is emboldening a specific sector of his base that is dangerous. I fear that if Trump gets re-elected, this sector of his base will only get more bold. However as a repricussion I do believe an extreme group on the left will form along with disgruntled and disinfeanchised people of the minority community will start targeting back.

I suspect no conservatives will be on board in channeling criticism against the divisive rhetoric of this so-called leader, but this needs to stop.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
Another shooting fueled by an extreme right wing white supremacist

But weren't the victims white?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
And while we're ousting that man in the WH and marginalizing the extremists, let's make sure that our solutions do not include curtailing our civil liberties. For example, let's not throw free speech under the bus in an attempt to marginalize a##hats.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
What caused some in the media to call him a "White Supremacist"? The only thing I saw was that he quoted Ragnar Redbeard once, if I quoted Moby Dick does that make me a whaler?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
What caused some in the media to call him a "White Supremacist"? The only thing I saw was that he quoted Ragnar Redbeard once, if I quoted Moby Dick does that make me a whaler?

Ok "liberal"

What was his reason to post a photo of the festival and use derogatory terms to refer to mixed raced people seen in 2:25-2:28 in the following video

 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
And while we're ousting that man in the WH and marginalizing the extremists, let's make sure that our solutions do not include curtailing our civil liberties. For example, let's not throw free speech under the bus in an attempt to marginalize a##hats.

That post SMH
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Another shooting fueled by an extreme right wing white supremacist

But weren't the victims white?
It seems inappropriate to frubal this as funny,
given the subject matter. But it does take the
wind from the OP's sails.

He blames Trump for this violence against
minorities....yet this perp shot at white folk.
It bespeaks a need to see one's tribe as the
victim, & the other as pure evil.
 
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leov

Well-Known Member


When Trump was asked whether white nationalism was a problem Trump stated that it wasn't. Here, we have a shooter who killed several people including a 6 year-old boy who will never realize his potential.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying again that Trump's rhetoric is emboldening a specific sector of his base that is dangerous. I fear that if Trump gets re-elected, this sector of his base will only get more bold. However as a repricussion I do believe an extreme group on the left will form along with disgruntled and disinfeanchised people of the minority community will start targeting back.

I suspect no conservatives will be on board in channeling criticism against the divisive rhetoric of this so-called leader, but this needs to stop.
I am bring sarcastic, not a big deal, just a very late abortion....life in this country is not very certain right from a get go.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
And while we're ousting that man in the WH and marginalizing the extremists, let's make sure that our solutions do not include curtailing our civil liberties. For example, let's not throw free speech under the bus in an attempt to marginalize a##hats.
Weapon legally purchased in Nevada.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
And while we're ousting that man in the WH and marginalizing the extremists, let's make sure that our solutions do not include curtailing our civil liberties. For example, let's not throw free speech under the bus in an attempt to marginalize a##hats.
I feel like there should be a way to monitor the online activity ( social media posts ) to measure an increase in volume ( number of posts ) and intensity of hate speech. Then if gun purchases were tracked LE could get a head start on investigating and preventing these tragedies.

But that would require a database of Gun owners and I know that 2nd amendment advocates would never support it.

At what point does the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness over rule the 2nd amendment? Doesn't the right to life of the victims supersede the right to confidentially own firearms?
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Ok "liberal"

What was his reason to post a photo of the festival and use derogatory terms to refer to mixed raced people seen in 2:25-2:28 in the following video


No different than when black people berate other blacks for dating white people but we don't call them supremacists do we?

Media:
Quoted Ragnar Redbeard at one time = White Supremacist

Used an assault rifle
Was an SKS which is classified as a war relic
Then it was "assault type"

Richard Ramirez wore an ACDC cap- ACDC was responsible for the murders.

See where this is going?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No different than when black people berate other blacks for dating white people but we don't call them supremacists do we?

Media:
Quoted Ragnar Redbeard at one time = White Supremacist

Used an assault rifle
Was an SKS which is classified as a war relic
Then it was "assault type"

Richard Ramirez wore an ACDC cap- ACDC was responsible for the murders.

See where this is going?
It's odd how the media handle descriptions of guns.
I kept hearing it was an "AK47 style SKS".
They're very different.
An SK is not an assault rifle at all.
But things must be made more sensational.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member


When Trump was asked whether white nationalism was a problem Trump stated that it wasn't. Here, we have a shooter who killed several people including a 6 year-old boy who will never realize his potential.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying again that Trump's rhetoric is emboldening a specific sector of his base that is dangerous. If fear that if Trump gets re-elected, this sector of his base will only get more bold. However as a repricussion I do believe an extreme group on the left will form along with disgruntled and disinfeanchised people of the minority community will start targeting back.

I suspect no conservatives will be on board in channeling criticism against the divisive rhetoric of this so-called leader, but this needs to stop.
Your header declares facts not in evidence. If the ´police don´t know the motive yet, I don´t understand why you think you do.

The half Iranian, half Italian man certainly had some disturbing statements online, nevertheless, I prefer facts over speculation.

If race, once again, is the criteria, then I would suggest that Blacks have been getting their own back vigorously.

The assassination of Police Officers is a predominantly Black sport, and it has been going on for a number of years.

Further, those champions of minority causes, ANTIFA, have exercised much violence in their quest. In Portland, they do it with impunity, knowing the police will make no effort to stop them.

So, lets not play the race card yet. Lets agree that there is a worm eating at the heart of America, the redress of political disagreements by murder of innocents.

Until we stop couching the problem in exclusively racial terms, and simply admit there are a lot of sick people who want to kill others, we can never address the issue properly,.

Pointing cfingers and jumping on the we v them bandwagon only gives cover to these sickoś.

I have a different take on the Gilroy incident. Once again honest law abiding people in one of the strongest gun control states, had no method of self defense against crazed idiots. Luckily the Police were close, and did what should be done to all of these loons.

Whst if they weren´t so close ? The slaughter toll would be much higher. If only one person had a firearm and used it, the shooter would have to be distracted at the least, stone cold dead at the best.

Until we realize that this crap is a societal problem, for the entire society, and not a racial or gun control part ( which never works) it will continue.

WE have to kill the worm. People desensitized to killing by watching it over, and over in movies, TV, and video games. The rampant belief that killing will somehow solve some kind of problem.

Ignoring despair, mental illness, hate in all kinds of people.

London is now in crisis because of knife killings. Their solution ? Knife control laws. Pure futility, but it gets them off the hook for a while as far as addressing the real causes in these murders.

Doing less is like telling a man with a severed leg, to take a baby aspirin, and he will be just fine.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I feel like there should be a way to monitor the online activity ( social media posts ) to measure an increase in volume ( number of posts ) and intensity of hate speech. Then if gun purchases were tracked LE could get a head start on investigating and preventing these tragedies.

But that would require a database of Gun owners and I know that 2nd amendment advocates would never support it.

At what point does the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness over rule the 2nd amendment? Doesn't the right to life of the victims supersede the right to confidentially own firearms?

I think we should be cautious about infringing on the privacy of citizens. That said, stricter gun registration laws make sense to me, given that gun ownership is completely voluntary.
 
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