Anti-maskers harass shoppers, force way into stores as cops watch.

[Father Heathen]

Anti-mask protesters try to force way into stores at Century City mall

"We see the protesters with the megaphones saying no masks. Take off the masks. Open back up L.A. All lives matter,"

So which is it, you oafish yokels?

 

[Vinayaka]

Bullies. Imagine some person working alone, and 8 large guys come marching in yelling at him/her. At Indian jewelry stores, (in my city, and Im sure elsewhere) the doors remain locked all the time, until the owner buzzes you in. Is that what it'll take? These guys need to be arrested.

 

[dad]

Anti-mask protesters try to force way into stores at Century City mall

"We see the protesters with the megaphones saying no masks. Take off the masks. Open back up L.A. All lives matter,"

So which is it, you oafish yokels?

They are forced to wear masks and protest. How sinister.

 

[Father Heathen]

They are forced to wear masks and protest. How sinister.

They've also been "forced" to wear shirts and shoes within establishments for decades. Why hasn't anyone ever protested that?

And no, their protests aren't sinister; they're imbecilic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anti-mask protesters try to force way into stores at Century City mall

"We see the protesters with the megaphones saying no masks. Take off the masks. Open back up L.A. All lives matter,"

So which is it, you oafish yokels?

Take off the mask because want I want is all that really matters. Your life and health don't matter, nor mine, just my ability carry on unimpeded as always before despite the fact a pandemic killing over 2,000 Americans a day (last I knew) is raging on.

 

[Father Heathen]

Conservatism has dealt a crippling blow to objective and critical thinking in the U.S., which is why our country has been backsliding. Even when Trump is finally fumigated from the White House, we'll still be the nation where half chose superstition, conspiracy theories, and hysterics over science, logic, and evidence; in other words we still have vacant-eyed, slack-jawed zombie hordes to contend with.

 

[Twilight Hue]

They've also been "forced" to wear shirts and shoes within establishments for decades. Why hasn't anyone ever protested that?

And no, their protests aren't sinister; they're imbecilic.

No. They are just sick and tired of the leftist gestapo running things into ruin over wearing masks that don't even work.

 

[Father Heathen]

No. They are just sick and tired of the leftist gestapo running things into ruin over wearing masks that don't even work.

The right can't make scientific facts and logic magically go away with drunken, belch-laden prayers. They should stop being ***** snowflakes and wear a damn mask for the the 5 minutes it takes them to buy that pouch of chewing tobacco.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yet the link said 480,000 tobacco related deaths and covid was at 365,620. And I doubt they would count a car accident with someone smoking as one of them!

Covid will very likely hit the 400,000 mark by the end of this month and it has a few more yet before its been here a full year.
Tobacco kills 1300 a day.
Covid kills over 2000.

 

[Father Heathen]

At this point I'm convinced they still won't get it if they have a heart attack and are left for dead by the ambulance because there is no room for them at the hospital.
Like the Dakotas, where people who are dying from covid still sometimes just don't get it.

The koolaid's potent. I guess some actually prefer being alleviated from the troubling burden of thought.

 

[Thief]

where I live......you can walk into any business
without a mask

no one will say anything

 

[Twilight Hue]

where I live......you can walk into any business
without a mask

no one will say anything

I know a few places in pa like that. Almost feels normal again.

 

[Left Coast]

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[Father Heathen]

where I live......you can walk into any business
without a mask

no one will say anything

I know a few places in pa like that. Almost feels normal again.

I'm sure there are a lot of tiny, rural podunk towns in backwater red states like that. Still, they should consider wearing a mask if only to hide those embarrassing kool-aid mustaches.
I think the reason a lot of anti-maskers hate them is because they forget to take them off before attempting to spit their "chaw" on the sidewalk.

 

[Thief]

found some stats.....as per CDC

COVID-19

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1. HEALTHCARE WORKERS

Pandemic Planning Scenarios
Updated Sept. 10, 2020
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Viral Transmissibility

• Basic reproduction number (R0): The average number of people that one person with SARS-CoV-2 is likely to infect in a population without any immunity (from previous infection) or any interventions. R0 is an estimate of how transmissible a pathogen is in a population. R0 estimates vary across populations and are a function of the duration of contagiousness, the likelihood of infection per contact between a susceptible person and an infectious person, and the contact rate.2

Disease Severity

• Infection Fatality Ratio (IFR): The number of individuals who die of the disease among all infected individuals (symptomatic and asymptomatic). This parameter is not necessarily equivalent to the number of reported deaths per reported case because many cases and deaths are never confirmed to be COVID-19, and there is a lag in time between when people are infected and when they die. This parameter also reflects the existing standard of care, which may vary by location and may be affected by the introduction of new therapeutics.

Pre-symptomatic and Asymptomatic Contribution to Disease Transmission

A pre-symptomatic case of COVID-19 is an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2, who has not exhibited symptoms at the time of testing, but who later exhibits symptoms during the course of the infection. An asymptomatic case is an individual infected with SARS-CoV-2, who does not exhibit symptoms during the course of infection. Parameter values that measure the pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic contribution to disease transmission include:

• Percentage of infections that are asymptomatic: The percentage of persons who are infected with SARS-CoV-2 but never show symptoms of disease. Asymptomatic cases are challenging to identify because individuals do not know they are infected unless they are tested over the course of their infection, which is typically only done systematically as a part of a scientific study.
• Infectiousness of asymptomatic individuals relative to symptomatic individuals: The contribution to transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from asymptomatic individuals compared to the contribution to transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from symptomatic individuals. For example, a parameter value of 50% means that an asymptomatic individual is half as infectious as a symptomatic individual, whereas a parameter value of 100% means that an asymptomatic individual is just as likely to transmit infection as a symptomatic individual.
• Percentage of transmission occurring prior to symptom onset: Among symptomatic cases, the percentage of new cases of COVID-19 due to transmission from a person with COVID-19 who infects others before exhibiting symptoms (pre-symptomatic).

Parameter values that do not vary across the five Pandemic Planning Scenarios (Table 2) are:

• Level of pre-existing immunity to COVID-19 in the community: The percentage of the U.S. population that had existing immunity to COVID-19 prior to the start of the pandemic beginning in 2019.
• Ratio of estimated infections to reported case counts: The estimated number of infections divided by the number of reported cases. The level of case detection likely varies by the age distribution of cases, location, and over time.
• Time from exposure to symptom onset: The number of days from the time a person has contact with an infected person that results in COVID-19 infection and the first appearance of symptoms.
• Time from symptom onset in an individual and symptom onset of a second person infected by that individual: The number of days from the time a person becomes symptomatic and when the person who they infect becomes symptomatic.

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Table 1. Parameter Values that vary among the five COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios. The scenarios are intended to advance public health preparedness and planning. They are not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19. The parameter values in each scenario will be updated and augmented over time, as we learn more about the epidemiology of COVID-19. Additional parameter values might be added in the future (e.g., population density, household transmission, and/or race and ethnicity).

Parameter values Table 1​

ParameterScenario 1Scenario 2Scenario 3Scenario 4Scenario 5: Current Best Estimate​

R0*

2.04.02.5​

Infection Fatality Ratio†

0-19 years: 0.00002
20-49 years: 0.00007
50-69 years: 0.0025
70+ years: 0.0280-19 years: 0.0001
20-49 years: 0.0003
50-69 years: 0.010
70+ years: 0.0930-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054​

Percent of infections that are asymptomatic§

10%70%10%70%40%​

Infectiousness of asymptomatic individuals relative to symptomatic¶

25%100%25%100%75%​

Percentage of transmission occurring prior to symptom onset**

30%70%30%70%50%​

References

1. Havers, F.P., Reed, C., Lim, T., Montgomery, J.M., Klena, J.D., Hall, A.J., Fry, A.M., Cannon, D.L., Chiang, C.F., Gibbons, A. and Krapiunaya, I., 2020. Seroprevalence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in 10 sites in the United States, March 23-May 12, 2020. JAMA Internal Medicine.
2. Dietz K. The estimation of the basic reproduction number for infectious diseases. Stat Methods Med Res. 1993;2:23–41.

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[Thief]

the previous post was greatly shortened

couldn't post the whole thing

 

[Thief]

as per John Hopkins......
1 in 17 Americans have tested positive

 

[Thief]

hmmmmm.....considering the number of people positive
and the % of people that die.......

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm sure there are a lot of tiny, rural podunk towns in backwater red states like that.

Like suburbs of LA in Californiastan, eh.
Don't be hate'n rural folk.