First Baseman
Retired athlete
I take Zoloft. Works great for me. But since everybody's brain chemistry is different not everybody can take the same thing and expect the same results.
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Antidepressants?
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I take Zoloft. Works great for me. But since everybody's brain chemistry is different not everybody can take the same thing and expect the same results.
First Baseman
Retired athlete
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
The LORD should provide you with peace and happiness. Throw that Zoloft into the sea and embrace the calming powers of the LORD!
Just kidding you nutcase, stay on the meds!!!
First Baseman
Retired athlete
Um... okay.
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
It's so easy for a doctor to just reach for the prescription pad, but is it really a solution?
Many years ago I was prescribed antidepressants and tranquilisers. The list of foods to be avoided with the antidepressants included so many favourites that I never took the drugs! The tranquilisers didn't make me tranquil, just muzzy, so I raided the piggy-bank for a course of psychotherapy, and ditched the pills.
Many years ago I was prescribed antidepressants and tranquilisers. The list of foods to be avoided with the antidepressants included so many favourites that I never took the drugs! The tranquilisers didn't make me tranquil, just muzzy, so I raided the piggy-bank for a course of psychotherapy, and ditched the pills.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Very typically, it's not just meds but a combination of meds and psychotherapy. That cannot be stressed enough. For some meds will always be needed, for some they are a "crutch" of sorts to help a client out of an emotional hole, but the client still must work on cognitive/behavioral issues to get out of the whole, much like someone who has had a surgery on their leg will have crutches to help them while they recover, but they still must strengthen their muscles in order to recover.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I was under the impression that this thread was intended to be a discussion. The OP asked if folks have had any luck with SSRIs.
Have you had any luck with SSRIs?
My contribution to the discussion has been a few facts gotten from the peer-reviewed literature showing the lack of effectiveness of antidepressants and effects on fetuses and nursing infants. These are more informative facts than anyone's personal anecdotes.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
The OP didn't ask you for facts. The OP asked as to whether or not YOU have had any luck with SSRIs.
Have YOU had any luck with SSRIs?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I think Dawn can trust her physician over some random kid on the internet.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If she's saying they worked for her, it's foolish to tell her they didn't. Like it or not, the best your side can prove is that psychotropic medications are being over-prescribed, and even many clinicians and researchers agree with that. But what you cannot prove, because there is evidence to the contrary, is that for many people they do work. They have their places and uses. I'd prefer the more traditional and natural routes for treatment (especially cannabis and psilocybin mushrooms), as they help with more issues with far less potential side effects, but it still can't be argued that the "sci-lab" cooked drugs aren't helping or doing any good. For many people they do make it possible to address the issues that are causing them psychological dysfunctioning and give them a crutch while they learn how to psychologically strengthen and improve themselves, although, much like in physical health, in some extreme cases people need the permanent assistance of various physical aids, so it is too that in psychiatry some people need permanent use of medications. And our methods for treatment are only going to keep improving as technology improves and we learn more about neuropsychology and neurochemistry. We may not be too far away from pharmacies making medications to fit a specific person's bio-neuro-chemistry and delivering it via drone.
When I first went to a psychiatrist, he prescribed a few SSRIs for me and switched between some of them. None of them worked for me and they actually worsened my condition, but that was because I was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder rather than unipolar depression. I take different medications now for bipolar.
To anyone who has experienced improvement on antidepressants, though, I'm happy for you, and best of luck! Psychiatric medications can definitely require some switching before one settles on a med or meds that work for them.
To anyone who has experienced improvement on antidepressants, though, I'm happy for you, and best of luck! Psychiatric medications can definitely require some switching before one settles on a med or meds that work for them.
So your posts here do not state any facts? Your claim in #14 that Zoloft is "fairly safe for pregnant and nursing Moms" is not a fact, is not appropriate for this thread?
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Again, you still have yet to answer the OP's question. Have YOU had any luck with SSRIs?
I answered the question and what I shared is relevant to MY person success with an SSRI. You've yet to discuss how anything that you've posted supports YOUR OWN experience with an SSRI.
This is a discussion, not a debate. One does wonder, if you personally do not have any experiences with SSRIs, what is your purpose for posting in this thread?
Some antidepressants have provided me with pretty good dividends.
I responded to your claims. If you don't like that fact or any of the facts I cited or quoted, then perhaps you haven't gotten the right pill.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
SSRIs?
So that it's understood, I didn't make my post for the purpose of debating any claims. Your "facts" weren't appreciated.
The OP asks whether one has had "any luck with SSRI". I have been lucky in that sales of some SSRIs have provided pretty good dividends for investors.
I am unaware that there is anything to debate about the facts that I have cited and quoted.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Considering the intended context of this thread, it's my opinion that the purpose of the thread would have been better fulfilled had you elaborated as to your experiences from the onset vs. attempting to discredit the safety of the SSRI(s) that I'm currently taken.
The facts that you've provided conflict with facts shared with me by multiple physicians. I can't properly share those facts as: a. it would derail the thread and b. such a response can be construed as debate.
Well done.
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I’m certain no one would complain or object if you were cite any facts that disprove the truth of the facts that I quoted from the peer-reviewed literature, namely that:
“the use of SSRIs in the first trimester of pregnancy may be associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular and/or other congenital malformations,” that the “use of sertraline during pregnancy has been reported to cause symptoms compatible with withdrawal reactions in neonates whose mothers had taken sertraline,” and that:
“neonates exposed to SSRIs and SNRIs late in the third trimester have uncommonly reported clinical findings including respiratory distress, cyanosis, apnea, seizures, temperature instability, feeding difficulty, vomiting, hypoglycemia, hypotonia, hyperreflexia, tremor, jitteriness, irritability, and constant crying. These effects have mostly occurred either at birth or within a few days of birth. These features are consistent with either a direct toxic effect of SSRIs and SNRIs, or possibly a drug discontinuation syndrome; in some cases, the clinical picture is consistent with serotonin syndrome. The results of a cohort study indicate that 30% of neonates who had prolonged exposure to SSRIs in utero experience symptoms, in a dose-response manner, of a neonatal abstinence syndrome after birth.”
and that in the case of breastfeeding, sertraline is:
“excreted into human milk,” that:
“use is not generally recommended,” and that:
“benefit should outweigh risk”
http://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/sertraline.html
except for the fact that:
“meta-analyses show selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors have no clinically meaningful advantage over placebo”
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.599.1783&rep=rep1&type=pdf
and that:
“antidepressants . . . increase the brain’s susceptibility to future episodes . . . cause neuronal damage and mature neurons to revert to an immature state, both of which may explain why antidepressants also cause neurons to undergo apoptosis (programmed death)”
which:
“supports the conclusion that antidepressants generally do more harm than good by disrupting a number of adaptive processes regulated by serotonin.”
https://www.researchgate.net/public...hether_antidepressants_do_more_harm_than_good
Indeed, it seems that if one were able to cite evidence refuting the above facts, one would feel obligated to provide them at any opportunity, given that tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that antidepressant drugs are safe and effective, just like tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that opioids are safe and harmless drugs that make them feel better and happier.