Antidepressants?

[Shadow Wolf]

Indeed, it seems that if one were able to cite evidence refuting the above facts, one would feel obligated to provide them at any opportunity, given that tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that antidepressant drugs are safe and effective, just like tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that opioids are safe and harmless drugs that make them feel better and happier.

We've been trying, but all you do is ignore them.

 

[ShivaFan]

There has to be a better way than this. Certainly better than SSRIs which, for whatever reason be it DNA or inclusive of past exposure to chemicals in the mix, or parents who abused drugs, albeit a small number yet a link between SSRIs and violent even murderous attacks on others, so many of the Columbine type shootings we find the attackers were users of SSRIs - there just has to be a better way than this big pharma stuff which is stuffing the turkey for the killing.

The better way may very well be some other medical procedure or medicine, herbal, or other. Or some meditation or yoga. A better way.

 

[dawny0826]

I’m certain no one would complain or object if you were cite any facts that disprove the truth of the facts that I quoted from the peer-reviewed literature, namely that:

“the use of SSRIs in the first trimester of pregnancy may be associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular and/or other congenital malformations,” that the “use of sertraline during pregnancy has been reported to cause symptoms compatible with withdrawal reactions in neonates whose mothers had taken sertraline,” and that:

“neonates exposed to SSRIs and SNRIs late in the third trimester have uncommonly reported clinical findings including respiratory distress, cyanosis, apnea, seizures, temperature instability, feeding difficulty, vomiting, hypoglycemia, hypotonia, hyperreflexia, tremor, jitteriness, irritability, and constant crying. These effects have mostly occurred either at birth or within a few days of birth. These features are consistent with either a direct toxic effect of SSRIs and SNRIs, or possibly a drug discontinuation syndrome; in some cases, the clinical picture is consistent with serotonin syndrome. The results of a cohort study indicate that 30% of neonates who had prolonged exposure to SSRIs in utero experience symptoms, in a dose-response manner, of a neonatal abstinence syndrome after birth.”

and that in the case of breastfeeding, sertraline is:

“excreted into human milk,” that:

“use is not generally recommended,” and that:

“benefit should outweigh risk”

http://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/sertraline.html

except for the fact that:

“meta-analyses show selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors have no clinically meaningful advantage over placebo”

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.599.1783&rep=rep1&type=pdf

and that:

“antidepressants . . . increase the brain’s susceptibility to future episodes . . . cause neuronal damage and mature neurons to revert to an immature state, both of which may explain why antidepressants also cause neurons to undergo apoptosis (programmed death)”

which:

“supports the conclusion that antidepressants generally do more harm than good by disrupting a number of adaptive processes regulated by serotonin.”

https://www.researchgate.net/public...hether_antidepressants_do_more_harm_than_good

Indeed, it seems that if one were able to cite evidence refuting the above facts, one would feel obligated to provide them at any opportunity, given that tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that antidepressant drugs are safe and effective, just like tens of millions of Americans want desperately to believe that opioids are safe and harmless drugs that make them feel better and happier.

Again, this is not a debate thread. If it were, I would refute you. Not that I owe anyone evidence to support why I trust my doctor and personal experience over discussion on an online forum.

As you're not relating any of this to your personal experiences with an SSRI, which was the stated purpose of this thread, I'm not sure why anyone would bother entertaining you at this juncture. I for one, am done. Ciao.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There has to be a better way than this. Certainly better than SSRIs which, for whatever reason be it DNA or inclusive of past exposure to chemicals in the mix, or parents who abused drugs, albeit a small number yet a link between SSRIs and violent even murderous attacks on others, so many of the Columbine type shootings we find the attackers were users of SSRIs - there just has to be a better way than this big pharma stuff which is stuffing the turkey for the killing.

The better way may very well be some other medical procedure or medicine, herbal, or other. Or some meditation or yoga. A better way.

Correlation does not mean causation. Crime and drownings tend to go up when ice cream sales go up, but ice cream is not causing the crime or drownings - rather we have to look for other variables to find a stronger correlation, in which we find that all three go up when the weather warms up due to people being more active outside and swimming more and buying more ice cream when the temperature goes up.
There are just too many people to draw a correlation between SSRIs and violence, but yet with things like Columbine we don't find it being caused by Marilyn Manson or SSRIs, but we find two teens who were depressed, bullied, and they snapped.