evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
Does anybody on this forum really believe in aliens being the cause of us?
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Any Alien Believers?
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MissAlice
Well-Known Member
Yes I believe in aliens or the notion that there could be life on another planet. I imagine it may not be the kind of aliens you see on TV but most likely plants, bacteria or single/doubled celled oraganisms of some sort. That doesn't rule out that they could be humanoids but in this life time I guess we'll never know...
bowingtoGod
Member
I think it is fairly safe to assume that aliens probably do exist. Although they probably are not as advanced as us.
As for them creating us, I don't think so.
They may have of visited Earth who knows? But I think most if not all of those UFO sightings are bogus.
As for them creating us, I don't think so.
They may have of visited Earth who knows? But I think most if not all of those UFO sightings are bogus.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Given the size of the universe, it's absurd to think that it's just us. Even if the universe is not infinite. I wonder what the Amerindians thought of their place in the natural order before and after the arrival of Europeans.
evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
This is a question more of what one believes more than what we know. Although according to many equations, abiogenesis could be happening a lot.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
I think it's highly likely that aliens of some description exist in the galaxy. I think it's less likely, but still possible that aliens manipulated evolution on Earth. Aliens placing the first living cells on Earth is also a possibility, but I don't personally believe it to be the case. I think it's extremely unlikely aliens created life on Earth as it is now (by which I mean, created humanity et al in one go without evolution) and is in my opinion ridiculous.
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DeitySlayer
President of Chindia
Exist, yes. Visited Earth, no. Humanoid, in all probability no as well.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
DeitySlayer, what in your opinion is so peculiar to Earth about humanoid lifeforms? Just re-consider the incredible bio-diversity of our planet, which is home to both the jellyfish and the human. (Very diverse!)
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
What, in your opinion, is less ridiculous as far as the creation of life on Earth is concerned? You are a Dark Pagan and I admit I don't know what that means. Do you posit a deity or deities responsible for the creation of our planet and the life thereon?
newhope101
Active Member
Yep..biblical creation and natural style evolution are both incorrect. Here's some proof. Don't forget the article below was written by a researchers on the Human Genome Project...makes me wonder about these scientists!!!!! Non the less... here it is. THE PROOF. Throw out your biology books, bibles, Koran, Torah etc. These incredibly intelligent scientists, we put our faith in, have worked it all out. Aliens created humans.
Here's a small excert.
rense.com
Scientists Find Extraterrestrial
Genes In Human DNA
Do civilizations of advanced human beings exist scattered in the Galaxy?
by John Stokes
1-11-7
A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.
The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is "Off-world" in origin. The apparent "extraterrestrial junk genes" merely "enjoy the ride" with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.
After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently "junk Human DNA" was created by some kind of "extraterrestrial programmer". The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, "have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs."
Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity.
Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence.
Professor Chang further indicates that "What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code." Mr. Chang then affirms that the "First fact is, the complete 'program' was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in 'the game'."
"Soon or later", Professor Chang says "we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is."
Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with "Human-looking Extraterrestrials"
The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.
The 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as 'star seeds' on Earth in human families. These "star seeds", "star children" or "star people" are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose 'souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to "boost" the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity. Most of humanity would consider this group of extraterrestrials to be 'benevolent' as described by 'contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These "contactees" often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard 'Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.
Representations concerning 'Ancient astronauts' Indeed, 'ancient astronaut' writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens. Evidence for this idea is found (a) in the improbability of Homo sapiens emerging so suddenly, according to the principles of orthodox Darwinism; and (b) in the myths of ancient civilisations which describe human-like gods coming down from the heavens and creating mankind 'in their own image'.Homo sapiens is thus regarded as a hybrid being, incorporating a mix of terrestrial genes from Homo erectus and extraterrestrial genes from an ascribed "race of the gods
　
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Here's a small excert.
rense.com
Scientists Find Extraterrestrial
Genes In Human DNA
Do civilizations of advanced human beings exist scattered in the Galaxy?
by John Stokes
1-11-7
A group of researchers working at the Human Genome Project indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.
The non-coding sequences are common to all living organisms on Earth, from moulds to fish to humans. In human DNA, they constitute larger part of the total genome, says Prof. Sam Chang, the group leader. Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is "Off-world" in origin. The apparent "extraterrestrial junk genes" merely "enjoy the ride" with hard working active genes, passed from generation to generation.
After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently "junk Human DNA" was created by some kind of "extraterrestrial programmer". The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, "have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs."
Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity.
Human Genome Project Coordinators find absolute proof of Extraterrestrial contact with 'Earth humans' via DNA evidence.
Professor Chang further indicates that "What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code." Mr. Chang then affirms that the "First fact is, the complete 'program' was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in 'the game'."
"Soon or later", Professor Chang says "we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is."
Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with "Human-looking Extraterrestrials"
The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.
The 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as 'star seeds' on Earth in human families. These "star seeds", "star children" or "star people" are described by Brad and Francie Steiger as individuals whose 'souls' were formally incarnated on the worlds of other star systems and then traveled to Earth and decided to incarnate here in order to "boost" the spiritual evolutionary development of humanity. Most of humanity would consider this group of extraterrestrials to be 'benevolent' as described by 'contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These "contactees" often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard 'Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.
Representations concerning 'Ancient astronauts' Indeed, 'ancient astronaut' writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens. Evidence for this idea is found (a) in the improbability of Homo sapiens emerging so suddenly, according to the principles of orthodox Darwinism; and (b) in the myths of ancient civilisations which describe human-like gods coming down from the heavens and creating mankind 'in their own image'.Homo sapiens is thus regarded as a hybrid being, incorporating a mix of terrestrial genes from Homo erectus and extraterrestrial genes from an ascribed "race of the gods
　
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evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
Can you please use smaller font, that is a page full of writing at that size.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Well for one thing I accept Evolution, so to me the creation of fully sentient life on Earth in one go is ridiculous no matter whether it was a god or an alien that did it
. I'm more open to the idea of the first living matter being placed here by a god/alien, though without any evidence to support this theory I wouldn't consider it to be anything more than an interesting story.Of course if it was discovered that the first cells did indeed come from beyond our planet I would consider the intervention of an alien species to be far more plausible, but would still consider something like a meteor containing organic cells hitting Earth to be more probable.
evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
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1-11-7
This is a strange article to find in what appears to be a legitimate news source -- beyond the peculiar use of a drawing labeled "Artistic representation from Eyewitness testimony of Asket, the extraterrestrial human woman, reference: www.gaiaguys.net," which is derived from the well known fabrication of Billy Meier who snapped the photo of a blonde actress from his television, another startlingly stupid statement in the article is as follows: "The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, "have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs." DNA does not have 'veins, arteries' or 'its own immune system,' it is molecular in nature! DNA is that which constitutes the building blocks for such things. Also, so-called 'junk DNA' is by no means any evidence or proof of 'extraterrestrial' anything.
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I think that for every thousand scientists, there needs to be one person that had some bad teachers, wants fame and makes a huge mistake. You could tell the moment the author of this article said darwinism. Despite my best efforts I have not found anything on Prof. Chang or his credentials he didn't write any scientific papers on it from what I have seen and every News article on it I have seen, including yours seems to be an exact duplicate of each other, which makes me believe this might be a big hoax but if he does exist I feel sorry for anyone with the same name as him.
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[email protected]
1-11-7
This is a strange article to find in what appears to be a legitimate news source -- beyond the peculiar use of a drawing labeled "Artistic representation from Eyewitness testimony of Asket, the extraterrestrial human woman, reference: www.gaiaguys.net," which is derived from the well known fabrication of Billy Meier who snapped the photo of a blonde actress from his television, another startlingly stupid statement in the article is as follows: "The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, "have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs." DNA does not have 'veins, arteries' or 'its own immune system,' it is molecular in nature! DNA is that which constitutes the building blocks for such things. Also, so-called 'junk DNA' is by no means any evidence or proof of 'extraterrestrial' anything.
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I think that for every thousand scientists, there needs to be one person that had some bad teachers, wants fame and makes a huge mistake. You could tell the moment the author of this article said darwinism. Despite my best efforts I have not found anything on Prof. Chang or his credentials he didn't write any scientific papers on it from what I have seen and every News article on it I have seen, including yours seems to be an exact duplicate of each other, which makes me believe this might be a big hoax but if he does exist I feel sorry for anyone with the same name as him.
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newhope101
Active Member
Yeah EvolvedYet, but it was funny. I hope Chang wasn't really on the Human Genome Project. I suppose if one believes in God, that entity should fit the description of an alien being.
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I voted for the second one, although I find it possible that aliens may have made life here, planted little seeds in the ground and left us to evolve.
On a television show I watched called Ancient Aliens, there apparently are mysterious holes somewhere across the ocean that look like a thousand plants were dug there, but from carbon dating the holes are about 3 trillion years old, and strangely survive there today.
On a television show I watched called Ancient Aliens, there apparently are mysterious holes somewhere across the ocean that look like a thousand plants were dug there, but from carbon dating the holes are about 3 trillion years old, and strangely survive there today.
The Wizard
Active Member
I picked the second one. Wouldn't any alien race that needed something from us or this planet be a parasite by nature? I mean if they truely needed something then they failed on their planet and are not all superior or highly advanced... I don't get it I guess.. IMO.
Sum1sGruj
Active Member
I didn't vote, because I'm completely neutral on the concept.
But I will say this: From what we've seen so far, the universe has been completely sterile of life. No radio-transmission, no life in general, or anywhere that could support life.
However, that does not mean that life isn't out there, but there is a stretch- what good is there having aliens in space if they are lightyears away? Unless they are technologically advanced to the point where they have mastered beyond interstellar travel, then it may be us that finds them.
If they exist.
But I will say this: From what we've seen so far, the universe has been completely sterile of life. No radio-transmission, no life in general, or anywhere that could support life.
However, that does not mean that life isn't out there, but there is a stretch- what good is there having aliens in space if they are lightyears away? Unless they are technologically advanced to the point where they have mastered beyond interstellar travel, then it may be us that finds them.
If they exist.
Oneatatime
Huh?
Panspermia is a possibility and requires no alien intellegence. It also seems reasonable that in a universe as big as ours that if life can arise here then it can also arise elsewhere but until we find alien life the best we can do is make a guess.