Any British National Party voters here?

[Bunyip]

WTH? That is one major leap you took there. I never associated all Muslims with that example. Where the hell did you draw that conclusion from??

From your post in which you identified a single person who happens to be a Moslem as justification for the rise of the BNP.

 

[Bunyip]

Shahz

All that facepalming must have affected your memory. This was your comment:

Oldbadger there is a prominent Muslim journalist in the UK who openly said that non Muslims are like animals. His name is Mehdi Hassan. If people like him are allowed to roam around and spread such hate, then what's the alternative? I think the BNP is a direct response to the rapid growth of Islamism in the UK.

The inference is that Moslems are 'people like him'.

 

[oldbadger]

Oldbadger there is a prominent Muslim journalist in the UK who openly said that non Muslims are like animals. His name is Mehdi Hassan. If people like him are allowed to roam around and spread such hate, then what's the alternative? I think the BNP is a direct response to the rapid growth of Islamism in the UK.

Hi.....
So because Mehdi is trouble you think that we need to support a pack of tw-ts to shout at him? We don't need either.

We don't mind Islam in the UK....... we mind terrorists, killers, criminals and insurrectionists, whoever they are, wherever from, whatever race, religion, colour or nationality.

The BNP would probably be your enemy....... honest.

 

[Yerda]

We don't mind Islam in the UK....... we mind terrorists, killers, criminals and insurrectionists, whoever they are, wherever from, whatever race, religion, colour or nationality.

There is hostility towards Muslims in Britain but I think that most people would agree with you there.

 

[MD]

Shahz

All that facepalming must have affected your memory. This was your comment:

The inference is that Moslems are 'people like him'.

My God you're an idiot. I was talking about hatemongerers like him who are seen as respectful members of society. Not all muslims.

That's like me calling Pat Buchanan a hate mongerer and in turn attacking all Christians. It might be how your warped mind works, but it makes no sense in the real world.

 

[MD]

Hi.....
So because Mehdi is trouble you think that we need to support a pack of tw-ts to shout at him? We don't need either.

We don't mind Islam in the UK....... we mind terrorists, killers, criminals and insurrectionists, whoever they are, wherever from, whatever race, religion, colour or nationality.

The BNP would probably be your enemy....... honest.

I know they would, they would hate me as much as any other non white. But as the Islamization of certain parts of the UK increases, groups like the BNP will gain more power.

 

[Bunyip]

My God you're an idiot. I was talking about hatemongerers like him who are seen as respectful members of society. Not all muslims.

That's like me calling Pat Buchanan a hate mongerer and in turn attacking all Christians. It might be how your warped mind works, but it makes no sense in the real world.

Name calling huh? What are you 5 years old?

 

[Yerda]

I know they would, they would hate me as much as any other non white. But as the Islamization of certain parts of the UK increases, groups like the BNP will gain more power.

What do you mean by Islamization?

 

[Yerda]

I know they would, they would hate me as much as any other non white. But as the Islamization of certain parts of the UK increases, groups like the BNP will gain more power.

In case you missed it. What do you mean by Islamization?

 

[Skorzeny]

In case you missed it. What do you mean by Islamization?

It's not difficult to understand as a concept. He is talking about the ever-advancing enroachment of the Muslim demographic within Great Britain and, with them, their customs, ideas and laws which are all in direct opposition to those of the British peoples (and indeed, all Western peoples).

 

[Yerda]

It's not difficult to understand as a concept. He is talking about the ever-advancing enroachment of the Muslim demographic within Great Britain and, with them, their customs, ideas and laws which are all in direct opposition to those of the British peoples (and indeed, all Western peoples).

Oddly enough they seem to want jobs and homes and cars and loads of crap like everyone else.

 

[Skorzeny]

Oddly enough they seem to want jobs and homes and cars and loads of crap like everyone else.

And? They're willing to relish in the fruits of Western civilisation but that doesn't mean they identify as British (or any other Western people).

 

[Yerda]

And? They're willing to relish in the fruits of Western civilisation but that doesn't mean they identify as British (or any other Western people).

Do Brits in Spain consider themselves Spanish? The Swedes, Irish, Bulgarians, Romanians, Americans, Canadians, Indians, Australians, Norwegians, Pakistanis, and Greeks I know all identify with their country of birth.

The Muslims I know who were born here always call themselves Scottish (I'm Scottish) and many of the ones I know are particularly proud Glaswegians. I don't identify as particularly British either for the matter and I'm a white non-Muslim with an entirely UK family.

 

[Skorzeny]

Do Brits in Spain consider themselves Spanish? The Swedes, Irish, Bulgarians, Romanians, Americans, Canadians, Indians, Australians, Norwegians, Pakistanis, and Greeks I know all identify with their country of birth.

The Muslims I know who were born here always call themselves Scottish (I'm Scottish) and many of the ones I know are particularly proud Glaswegians. I don't identify as particularly British either for the matter and I'm a white non-Muslim with an entirely UK family.

It's not the same thing; European nationalities can easily intermingle because we are a part of the same civilisation; we share the same values, ideas, history and racial identity. We are different, but we are the same. Muslims are completely different and will always identify as Muslim before they identify as a nationality, as dictated by their religion. The fact that any non-European people is allowed to live in Europe propagating their own cultural ideas and anti-Western laws is the problem.

What on Earth do you identify yourself as, then? If your parents are English, Scottish or Irish then you are, indeed, British. This is an inalienable and undeniable fact.

 

[Yerda]

Muslims are completely different and will always identify as Muslim before they identify as a nationality, as dictated by their religion.

I know Scottish Muslims. They are Scottish. Born here, live here, work here, some of the men have married non-Muslim women. I used to have a Muslim girlfriend. We split up, but she married a non-Muslim guy. They are just people.

The atmosphere has definitely changed though. There are problems in many Muslim communities. Especially in England where a lot of daft teenagers think terror is sexy. Most people are just getting on with life, though.

What on Earth do you identify yourself as, then? If your parents are English, Scottish or Irish then you are, indeed, British. This is an inalienable and undeniable fact.

I feel Scottish. I don't really feel that British. In the end, it's not that important to me.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

Not a supporter of them myself, but curious to see who is and why.

But surely, it stands to reason that a bunch of thugs such as BNP would be least concerned about this RF forum.

Most of the BNP are working-class and poorly educated; but these are not the sort of people you'd expect to be church goers. Most of them aren't even remotely interested in religion.

 

[goodhunter819]

I am mainly a man of religion, though I believe in the conventional, I say Nazi politics in any full form to British government is like Guy Fawkes to parliament, regardless of any changed guise, It is Plato who said that there is only one true from of a thing, (ie) politics and anything after that is an indigent innovation to use the phrase, so it can only end badly in my opinion.

 

[Nietzsche]

But surely, it stands to reason that a bunch of thugs such as BNP would be least concerned about this RF forum.

Most of the BNP are working-class and poorly educated; but these are not the sort of people you'd expect to be church goers. Most of them aren't even remotely interested in religion.

It's amazing how often racism and poor education come together. One might start to think that the vast majority of racist people are only racist because they're stupid..

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

It's amazing how often racism and poor education come together. One might start to think that the vast majority of racist people are only racist because they're stupid..

But there is a real and direct correlation between the two. Racism and ignorance are directly correlated. Or you could say, racism would be inversely correlated with education. Which is why the vast majority of BNP supporters are working-class. Go to any country in the world and you will see the same pattern repeated.

 

[Ultimatum]

Heck no! We (husband and I) will never vote for nationalists and racists.

We both voted for the Green Party, other parties don't have enough concern for the environment which is the most important thing. Plus personally I didn't want to support any big parties, they never reflect my opinions and interests. I suspect them to have lots of money bags from companies (like Cameron with fracking companies).

Your priorities are wrong.
You don't seem to think a crumbling NHS is more important.
You don't seem to think that increasingly compressed wages are more important.
You don't seem to think that reforming the DWP and introducing a basic income is more important.
You don't seem to think that burning £55M/day for no reason is more important.

No wonder the polls still show majority support for Labour..