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Any of you believe the Moon Landing was Fake?
- Thread starter Mycroft
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yes I do feel that there is something going on that we don't know about, its weird that they went to the moon back in all those years without any problem, and today there's all sorts of problems, just to get out of our orbit from our planet ?.
Already did. I was once a bit of a nudist. But what has that got to do with moon landings?
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
What sort of problems do you refer to?
and, PS: It wasn't 'without any problem' there were lots of tests and attempts before Apollo 11, and people died in the process.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I really don't know, but it does sound fishy, that is all I can really say.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
So you don't know...but you think it sounds fishy? That sounds like an argument from ignorance.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well where does your argument come from ?, are you an expert on this subject and know it all, I don't think so.
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
IMO Bit late to ask now. It is Mars time.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
That's a deflection.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Also, what if I were to tell you that it was perfectly possible to send man to the moon in 1969, but impossible to fake it.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Well, there is also the fact that there is a pretty incremental mission log. We didn't just hop to the moon -- there were several intermediary missions like putting objects in orbit and testing various parts of the system. It's more that we baby-stepped to the moon rather than just went there. But, after we went there we didn't just go there once. You're not saying one moon-shot is fake, but rather that a collection of them are fake. It's a near impossibility based on the number of astronauts living who can provide testimony.
There is also the fact that once you have the technology to launch an intercontinental ballistic missile you already have the tech for this space mission. It takes very little rocket power to get from orbit -> moon if one uses the right thrust vectors and gravity assist. Play Kerbal Space Program (a game loosely modeled on reality, but with smaller physics to account for the smaller "earth") and then realize how little juice a moon landing would take.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
That's what I meant by 'lots of attempts before apollo 11'.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well again I don't really know, maybe it was, but again who are you to truly know ?.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Someone who paid attention during his physics degree. And someone whose father worked in the film industry for over 40 years (Ie: He was working on video in 1969).
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Nobody truly knows anything. The issue here is saying something “seems a little fishy”, which is quite a strong inference that it’s likely not to have happened, on the basis of limited understanding of limited information.
It’s worth noting that this isn’t a simple “did this happen or not”. A fake moon landing (landings actually – that’s often overlooked) would require massive deception and fraud, probably criminally, by a lot of people. Many of those people will still be alive so I think that before you start even suggesting they might be guilty you have a moral responsibility to put in a little more effort to back up those suggestions.
Based on the science, we've only just created shielding to get humans past the Van Allen Belt; otherwise with the weight of the fuel, the weight of the original ship it is mathematically impossible.
This reminded of a Clip from Intersteller. I like the fact they included this honestly, as part of the Moon Landing Hoax is really a reflection of more general scepticism towards science and history as bodies on knowledge and what technology is infact capable of. we're now largely free to re-write history or challange scientific consensus and if enough people believe it, it becomes "true". its very strange honestly and deeply unproductive. I avoid conspiracy theories like the plague as it's just good for my sanity. there are too many ways to say "that can't happen" to actually reply to, and even if you did- that's not the reason people believe it in the first place. I'm not saying they are lying or insincere, but this is a really confusing area to have people challange the historical record. it reflects a much deeper sense of who we are as people and what we are capable of.
But I'm going to believe the "lies" of the federal government. I demand a moon buggy!
But I'm going to believe the "lies" of the federal government. I demand a moon buggy!
Sometimes I feel it's fake , why ?
because Now , inspite the very developped science , the mankind are not do it "again" .
Could the tools that used in that time to fly in space and landing and fly again then landing to reach that event ?