Any of you believe the Moon Landing was Fake?

[Jainarayan]

My father was firmly convinced the moon landing was orchestrated by Walt Disney's special effects departments. I'm not so sure it didn't happen. To the best of my knowledge there is a reflector on the moon that a laser beam is bounced off of to determine the moon's distance. If true, how did it get there? If it's b.s. then maybe mathematics explains the distance and movements of the moon. I don't know if there is any reason to have returned to the moon, except for the one time to say "hey, we did it".

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I had started a similar thread last year about Moon hoaxers.
http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-the-moon-hoaxers.173256/#post-4141024

Honestly, I have never believed in any of the several conspiracy theories about the moon landings (they are very different than one another)..they all sound absurd to me. What astonishes me is that moon hoaxers believe that the cold war had something to do with the Americans's desire to defy the Russians in a alleged "space race".
And that they would have faked the moon landings (the all 6) in order to beat them and win this "science competition".
I just think that both the Russians and the Americans were struggling to improve the scientific field of their countries. The only difference is that the Americans had much more money than the Russians. So they could use it to fulfill their goal, and to explore our natural satellite, unlike the Russians.

The Russians also had geography against them. Cape Canaveral is much closer to the equator than the Russian launch site, so American rockets get more of a free boost from the rotation of the Earth. This meant that the Russian rockets had to be significantly bigger to do the same job.

They could have dealt with the problem by launching from, say, Cuba, but they were probably understandably hesitant to be seen shipping rockets there in the mid-60s.

 

[Revoltingest]

My father was firmly convinced the moon landing was orchestrated by Walt Disney's special effects departments. I'm not so sure it didn't happen. To the best of my knowledge there is a reflector on the moon that a laser beam is bounced off of to determine the moon's distance. If true, how did it get there? If it's b.s. then maybe mathematics explains the distance and movements of the moon. I don't know if there is any reason to have returned to the moon, except for the one time to say "hey, we did it".

He might be right.
I found this incriminating pic....

 

[Jainarayan]

He might be right.
I found this incriminating pic....

 

[Nietzsche]

Russia releases information about how 9/11 was an Inside Job, doesn't mean people are interested.

Plus like with any conspiracy, we mainly get to only hear one side of the story by design.

So you're one of the "JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS" sorts? Right, that was all I needed to know.

 

[wizanda]

So you're one of the "JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS" sorts? Right, that was all I needed to know.

Yeah strange scary people who like to use science, and evidence; before accepting the beliefs given to us by our Rulers.

Don't have any beliefs about how they did it, just ideas, based on the evidence available.

So after everyone has given good reasons to accept the Moon landing, I'm still open, and don't think the case is solid enough....

So i remain open minded, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Nietzsche]

Yeah strange scary people who like to use science, and evidence; before accepting the beliefs given to us by our Rulers.

Don't have any beliefs about how they did it, just ideas, based on the evidence available.

So after everyone has given good reasons to accept the Moon landing, I'm still open, and don't think the case is solid enough....

So i remain open minded, nothing wrong with that.

The most specialy-est of snowflakes you must be, with your greater than 99% of expert's knowledge of metallurgy, explosives and such.

 

[wizanda]

The most specialy-est of snowflakes you must be, with your greater than 99% of expert's knowledge of metallurgy, explosives and such.

Earrrgaaraah??

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The most specialy-est of snowflakes you must be, with your greater than 99% of expert's knowledge of metallurgy, explosives and such.

I'm a civil engineer. While I wouldn't call myself an expert in metallurgy or explosives, I've taken courses in metallurgy and structural steel design. I've worked in fire protection engineering. I've spoken personally to an engineer who worked on the design of the WTC (as a young engineer - he was a distinguished professor and a forensic engineer by the time I met him) about the collapse and its causes. I've read the NIST report on the WTC collapse.

Guess what I think about what caused the collapse?

Hint: it isn't any of the hypotheses to come out of the "truther" camp.

 

[RRex]

May I recommend two sites to mine for great material on this subject?

www.abovetopsecret.com

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?action=forum

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Conspiracy theories have provided us with something endlessly useful: an efficient and accurate filter of people not worth debating with at all.

 

[RRex]

My father was firmly convinced the moon landing was orchestrated by Walt Disney's special effects departments.

There is also a theory floating around out there that Stanley Kubrick filmed the Apollo 11 mission, and that he confessed this in his film "The Shining" by putting the boy, Danny, in an Apollo 11 sweater.

There is also a video clip in which he discusses it.

 

[Paleo]

*valley girl accent*

Guys like the moon landing theories are sooo 2000's.

 

[Nietzsche]

I'm a civil engineer. While I wouldn't call myself an expert in metallurgy or explosives, I've taken courses in metallurgy and structural steel design. I've worked in fire protection engineering. I've spoken personally to an engineer who worked on the design of the WTC (as a young engineer - he was a distinguished professor and a forensic engineer by the time I met him) about the collapse and its causes. I've read the NIST report on the WTC collapse.

Guess what I think about what caused the collapse?

Hint: it isn't any of the hypotheses to come out of the "truther" camp.

Clearly you're a plant, using your fancy "science" and "reason" and "education", to spread disinformation by the Judeo-Bolshevik-Reptilian-Masonic-Fascist-Muslim-Capitalist Wallstreet Bohemian Grove Illuminati Grassyknoll(420?) wing of the Reigning World Conspiracy™.

 

[Nietzsche]

There is also a theory floating around out there that Stanley Kubrick filmed the Apollo 11 mission, and that he confessed this in his film "The Shining" by putting the boy, Danny, in an Apollo 11 sweater.

There is also a video clip in which he discusses it.

Or the kid was wearing it because it was a big event that allowed Kubrick to indicate roughly when the events of the movie take place without clunky exposition..?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Clearly you're a plant, using your fancy "science" and "reason" and "education", to spread disinformation by the Judeo-Bolshevik-Reptilian-Masonic-Fascist-Muslim-Capitalist Wallstreet Bohemian Grove Illuminati Grassyknoll(420?) wing of the Reigning World Conspiracy™.

I'm sure Professor Grierson was as well: a sleeper agent masquerading as a rather demanding and knowledgeable structural professor for decades, just waiting for his opportunity to plant false ideas about the collapse in the heads of his impressionable students, who only had a few years of schooling in the principles that all steel building design relies upon and were therefore unequipped to tell truth from falsehood.

Oh - and I'd also give a second look to the authors and editors of the fire protection engineering textbooks that stress the importance of steel buildings' vulnerability to fire (i.e. all of them) - they're surely plants as well.

 

[Nietzsche]

I'm sure Professor Grierson was as well: a sleeper agent masquerading as a rather demanding and knowledgeable structural professor for decades, just waiting for his opportunity to plant false ideas about the collapse in the heads of his impressionable students, who only had a few years of schooling in the principles that all steel building design relies upon and were therefore unequipped to tell truth from falsehood.

Oh - and I'd also give a second look to the authors and editors of the fire protection engineering textbooks that stress the importance of steel buildings' vulnerability to fire (i.e. all of them) - they're surely plants as well.

Is nowhere safe from the tentacles of this conspiracy?! Thank god we have courageous, reasonable men like Alex Jones, David Icke and Wizanda to spread the truth and protect us from them.

 

[Scott C.]

Be honest! Reveal yourselves! Let's talk.

Of course we went to the moon. Absurd to think otherwise.

 

[Mycroft]

Yeah strange scary people who like to use science, and evidence; before accepting the beliefs given to us by our Rulers.

But you don't use science or evidence. You accept the testimony of others because you believe it makes more sense.

Kind of like religious people do with their holy texts and whatnot.

 

[Riverwolf]

*valley girl accent*

Guys like the moon landing theories are sooo 2000's.

Dude, as a Californian, you like, TOTALLY put "like" in the wrong place. It should be between the "are" and "soooo". (Granted, I'm not from the Valley that Valleyspeak is from; I'm from Diablo Valley in Norcal, and Valleyspeak is from San Fernando Valley in Socal, but still...)

And yes. I do find it more interesting and useful to debate the intricacies of Californian dialects and where "like" is supposed to go, than go on and on about "fake" Moon landing conspiracy "theories".