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Anyone else believe that if there is a God, he would not be very happy with religious people?

HoldemDB9

Active Member
Or at least, he would favour the non-religious over them? I believe this. The bottom line is, the belief systems of religions are pathetic, I think most people will agree with this. Whether or not they are true, they are still ridiculous. God knows that they are ridiculous.

Heck Id even go as far as saying that if the Christian God exists, he would not be very happy with people believing in some of the pathetic things that Christians believe, even if those beliefs happen to be true. Whether or not something is true has nothing to do with how ridiculous it is to believe that it is true. Why would Christians get more credit for being correct, even though other peoples beliefs were superior to theirs. Know what I mean?

For example, imagine that there was a guy in court who was accused of murder. There is overwhelming evidence to support that he is innocent. There are two groups of people, group A and group B. Group A believe he is innocent. But group B keep believeing that he is guilty without any reason whatsoever. If the guy turns out to be guilty, should group B (that were correct) be rewarded, or given any more credit than group A? Of course they shouldn't, they were stupid to believe that the guy was guilty. Just because he happened to be guilty, does not make them any better off.

I hope you know what I getting at here, it pretty hard to explain. Its just that the religious put so much emphasis on who is right, regardless of how stupid there beliefs are. If heard plenty of Christians say that there is nothing stupid about the Muslims beliefs, but its just that they are wrong. But what is wrong with being wrong? Obviously they have done their best to try and be right. Why would God punish someone for simply being wrong? Being wrong about religion is not something that someone deserves t be punished for.
 

UnTheist

Well-Known Member
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doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Where there is a "God," it's a metaphysical projection constructed by religious people. And it's usually more pleased with the religious people doing the projecting than it is with people who project a different "God" or no "God" at all.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I think God is more concerned about one's actions than how they view "Him" and it's not about if one is religious or not; I do not buy into "turn or burn!!!"ism, and find such a concept of God to be not only ridiculous, but also quite offensive - offensive to me or the listener for being insulted, offensive to the speaker for sprouting such rubbish, and mostly, offensive to God, for deciding things for God.

Someone saying "Oh, nothing wrong with Muslim beliefs, they're just wrong"--so? It might be naïve or foolish, but they could do a lot worse than say "they're just wrong". They could advocate killing them. As long as they do not interfere with how they treat them, and they keep their opinions to themselves, it shouldn't matter. No, it's not nice, but it's better than violence.

'sides, don't pick on the Christians too much. They're a decent enough bunch.
Oh, and no religion, or lack of, is superior to another. Atheism is not superior to Christianity, nor vice-versa. It is all how one perceives truth.

Actions, now those are more important.
 

HoldemDB9

Active Member
Oh, and no religion, or lack of, is superior to another. Atheism is not superior to Christianity, nor vice-versa. It is all how one perceives truth.


So you don't think Atheists are superior to flat earth believers? You believe that if there is a God, he would treat the belief system of an Atheist the same way he would treat a flat earth believers belief system? It pretty obvious that some beliefs at least deserve more respect than others. Maybe superior is the wrong word.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
So you don't think Atheists are superior to flat earth believers? You believe that if there is a God, he would treat the belief system of an Atheist the same way he would treat a flat earth believers belief system? It pretty obvious that some beliefs at least deserve more respect than others. Maybe superior is the wrong word.
No, I don't believe anyone is superior to another. Misguided, yes. But superior? No.
One person superior to another brings elitism, elitism brings alienation, alienation breeds violence.

As to deserving respect: even if someone believes in a flat earth, they (but not their beliefs) should still be respected - you can teach them about the truth without demeaning them. Saying "haha n00b u r teh wrongness" would only alienate people and makes them cling to their beliefs more.

Yes, superior is the wrong word.
 
I don't think that God would find them pathetic. I think that God would probably feel compassion for them. After all, no one can be proven right or wrong, we're just in the dark, blindly trying to find our way.
 

Steinninn

Viking
I don't believe that God will make us suffer for not believing in him. It's our spirit that need his guidance.

Take the sun as an example. If a plant would hide from the sun it will die. Did it die because the sun is punishing it? No, the plant died because it needs the sun to survive. If we don't believe in God, our bodie will survive, but our soul will be, how should I but it? Unforfulled.

So you say, even if christians are right, that God would not be happy with christians. How so? Why would he send Jesus to us if he didn't want us to follow what he said. Let's take that example you gave, so the guy killed a girl or something, and he is found guilty even though most people thought he was inosent. So do you think the family of the girl is happy that he is in prison? Of corse they are.
The same goes with God. Even though their believes might sound stuped to you, God still loves the christians for believing. That's my view.
 

challupa

Well-Known Member
No, I don't believe anyone is superior to another. Misguided, yes. But superior? No.
One person superior to another brings elitism, elitism brings alienation, alienation breeds violence.

Yes, superior is the wrong word.
I agree. Making the person the target versus the belief or behavior causes many problems.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Just got this email from God;

"Hey Quagmire,

Please tell everybody posting in that thread that I like all religions equally, although I find some funnier than others (and I like those the best)".

from: [email protected]"
 

HoldemDB9

Active Member
The same goes with God. Even though their believes might sound stuped to you, God still loves the christians for believing. That's my view.

I didn't say he would not love them. Its just that most Christians believe that its all about being right and whoever is right, will be best off. If God is fair at all, then being right will not be what matters.

And some beliefs aren't just stupid "to me". In this day and age some beliefs are just plain stupid, you cant really deny this. Even the people who have these beliefs will probably agree, but because they have faith that these stupid beliefs are correct, they think its fine to have them and God will be happy with them for believing it.

If there is a God who favours people for being right over people who are wrong, even though the ones who were right had pathetic, illogical, unreasonable beliefs, then I want absolutely nothing to do with that evil disgusting God. Sad thing is, I think almost all religions portray God to be like this. I believe if there is a God and if he does judge us, he will do so based on our heart and our willingness to find truth. :)
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
If there is a deity, I believe that She wouldn't be so concerned with religious vs. non-religious but rather with how we treat one another and ourselves and the world around us (Earth).
 

Steinninn

Viking
If there is a God who favours people for being right over people who are wrong, even though the ones who were right had pathetic, illogical, unreasonable beliefs, then I want absolutely nothing to do with that evil disgusting God. Sad thing is, I think almost all religions portray God to be like this.
The bahá'ís don't portray him like that.
 
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