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Anyone live in Michigan?

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
I've got the chance to visit anyone who lives in Michigan, so speak now or forever hold you peace. :p
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
If memory serves me...:D...about 10 million people do.
Ooohhh..you meant RF members.:jester3:

sparc872 and kateyes are 2 that come to mind, but I'm sure there are more, and there are at least 2 former Georgia residents who were active in our local VW club who moved back to Michigan for different reasons. Anyway, hopefully someone will see this on the bump. :)
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
I've got the next five days or so to visit Michigan. Tigress, where do you live? Presumably Ontario? I'm in Port Lambton right now, and we're right across a river from Michigan.
 

Tigress

Working-Class W*nch.
Yes. The city seen from across the Detroit River is Windsor. I live approx. 45min. south of there in Canada's southernmost, boringmost town. :) I do believe our border crossing is the busiest in North America. I've been to Michigan only a couple of times. There's a lot of crime in Detroit, and most of us around here aren't much for crossing the border.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Tigress said:
There's a lot of crime in Detroit, and most of us around here aren't much for crossing the border.

There's not as much crime in Detroit as rumour would have it. As with any metro area, it depends on where you are.

(My husband's from Detroit.)
 

Tigress

Working-Class W*nch.
I know that, but it's a lot compared to here across the river (though Windsor has been getting worse lately, it seems).
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Tigress said:
I know that, but it's a lot compared to here across the river (though Windsor has been getting worse lately, it seems).

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if US cities had higher crime rates similar to Canadian ones.

We're rather retarded in our ideas of how to protect society. We make decisions about such things based on emotions and what gets politicians elected and not based on what actually works.
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
We would be deserting our social nature to do otherwise, Booko. Of course, that would be mixed blessing.

U.S. cities and Canadian cities of comparable size often have comparable crime rates. But by comparable, I mean you can look at them and instantly see a large difference. Whether this is due to the availability of handguns in the U.S. or some other factor, I do not know.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Druidus said:
We would be deserting our social nature to do otherwise, Booko. Of course, that would be mixed blessing.

U.S. cities and Canadian cities of comparable size often have comparable crime rates. But by comparable, I mean you can look at them and instantly see a large difference. Whether this is due to the availability of handguns in the U.S. or some other factor, I do not know.
Personally, I think it has to do with an approach to problems.

Canadians see drug use as a health problem, and so look for solutions like treament and prevention. They reduce the drug problem by reducing consumers.

We declare "war" on it and end up with the same mess we had in Prohibition. We toss drug users in jail, which does nothing to deal with problems of addiction. If anything, it makes them worse. We stick our noses into other countries in a violent way, demanding they stop growing something that makes them a lot of money, because we want to consume it. And at the same time, we talk domestically about how obvious it is to just "let the free market solve the problem." Duh!

I'm not arguing for legalizing drugs one way or the other here. I'm just giving one example of how a difference of approach to a problem has different consequences.

Terrorism is another example. We've declared "war" on that too. Other countries see it as more of a "criminal" problem. We send troops, sometimes wrongheadedly, into other countries, and by doing so create...more terrorists. :confused: Other countries focus their efforts on police and intelligence, which eliminates terrorists and doesn't create them at the same time. And then they enter into dialogue with groups where terrorists originate, to try and find ways to have better relations and understanding, so no one feels like it's necessary to be a terrorist in the first place.

Again, I'm not saying there is never a military aspect to dealing with terrorism. I'm saying the difference in approach has different consequences.

I don't know what the Canadian approach to crime is, but perhaps it's different than here in the US.

And we're so off topic, but it's an interesting subject...should I fork some of these off into a new thread or should we just start behaving ourselves in this thread? :p
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't live too far from the southern Michigan border, only about 3 hours. Don't have anytime off to go too far with being a full time worker and student.:(
 

almifkhar

Active Member
i live in the city limits of detroit, east side to be exact

it's not so bad, here but keep in mind there sure are a whole bunch of negitive folks here. you could even get a glimse of what will become of the rest of the nation by comming and driving around in detroit. it's really sad to see what this city once was and what it has become.
 
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