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AOC posts grandmother's home situation. Refuses conservative fundraising aid to help her.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What happened is AOC publicly posts the interior of her grandmothers home on social media and harshly critized how relief aid was never forwarded to help victims of disaster. Particularly Puerto Rico victims for this case.

Fair enough call, but when she was accused of not helping her own grandmother, sharing her own wealth to make life better for her grandmother, she refuses to help her making excuse after excuse why she won't.

So a conservative fundraiser was started to help her grandmother out since AOC won't, and it was a great success raising a considerable amount.

The money raised was then offered to aid her grandmother, and it was refused leaving her grandmother to remain in the same situation.

A right-wing writer who crowdfunded $100,000 to repair the Puerto Rico home of AOC's grandmother says she declined to accept the money

AOC doesn't want to share her own wealth to help even personal family members, but politically she expects that to be the case for other people to share their wealth with strangers. This is hypocritical behavior.

This is why politics fail.

This is why people never are better off because...

1) Politictions don't lead by example nor follow their own philosophy.

2) Bi-partisanship is a pipe dream for as long as this two party monopoly exists.

3) Social Media implementation using people, including own family, as chessboard pawns for political positioning and activism.

It's a sad thing and grandmother gets nothing.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
AOC doesn't want to share her own wealth to help even personal family members, but politically she expects that to be the case for other people to share their wealth with strangers. This is hypocritical behavior.
I disagree that is it hypocritical. I think it's questionable for her to use her grandmother as a political tool like this but that isn't really all that different to general examples of people in these kind of situations used to illicit response from the public and/or government.

The point isn't just about one person though, she is presenting her grandmother as just one example of thousands of people in this kind of situation (and probably worse) in Puerto Rico. It isn't only people with relatively wealthy families or who individually make it in to the public eye who need support, which is why that support needs to be delivered across the board. That's something that wider society can deliver and while it doesn't technically need to be, that is often via government for obvious practical reasons. And aid was apparently promised by government but it is being alleged that is wasn't delivered to the people who need it.

Also, wouldn't it be equally hypocritical for the people who rushed to raise money for this one woman (to make a political point) but not to help anyone else in Puerto Rico?
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Man... Puerto Rico sure got screwed. I'm still really unhappy with what we did in that situation. We failed our folks.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I have a tough time believing the fundraising efforts took place in good faith. If I had to guess, Matt Walsh ironically did this in an attempt to set AOC up. She has no play here. What are the legal hoops necessary for something like this to happen? Even if she did take it, what does Walsh expect in return? What obligations are AOC expected to undertake? If you think the needless political hate AOC takes is bad now, just wait if she went on record accepting this.

Come on, we all know this was a lose/lose for her. She was making a fairly accurate observation and Walsh decided to politically exploit it to make her look bad.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have a tough time believing the fundraising efforts took place in good faith. If I had to guess, Matt Walsh ironically did this in an attempt to set AOC up. She has no play here. What are the legal hoops necessary for something like this to happen? Even if she did take it, what does Walsh expect in return? What obligations are AOC expected to undertake? If you think the needless political hate AOC takes is bad now, just wait if she went on record accepting this.

Come on, we all know this was a lose/lose for her. She was making a fairly accurate observation and Walsh decided to politically exploit it to make her look bad.
The whole thing is entirely AOCs fault for using her grandmother on social media as a political tool for her activism alongside her criticism, but does nothing for her grandmother to help her out.

She's the one who intentionally opened this can of worms and got called out on it when she refuses to follow her own political philosophy of sharing one's wealth with others.

She was then called out on exploiting her grandmother on social media for political gain without ever intending on helping her, and this is what started the fundraising to show her up on her own hypocrisy.

Of course she refuses, because her own hurt ego is far more important than accepting it to help her own family member.

One should be thankful there are people out there willing to contribute money to the plight of AOCs grandmother, but obviously AOC dosent see it that way.

She demonstrated she would much rather use her grandmother as a valuable political pawn for social media than ever assisting her out.



She's refusing because it hurts her ego and maybe dosent actually care for her grandmother as much as she alludes. She just saw her as an opportunity.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I have a tough time believing the fundraising efforts took place in good faith. If I had to guess, Matt Walsh ironically did this in an attempt to set AOC up. She has no play here. What are the legal hoops necessary for something like this to happen? Even if she did take it, what does Walsh expect in return? What obligations are AOC expected to undertake? If you think the needless political hate AOC takes is bad now, just wait if she went on record accepting this.

Come on, we all know this was a lose/lose for her. She was making a fairly accurate observation and Walsh decided to politically exploit it to make her look bad.
Accepting it would show she's a better person by allowing her grandmother to make repairs and get her life back together and leaving her out of her activism. Who would do that to a family member?

At least she could have helped her grandmother out which was obvious she was not prepared to do by any tangible means.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A congress person's base salary is $174,000 a year by the way.

That's $3346.15 a week.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have a tough time believing the fundraising efforts took place in good faith. If I had to guess, Matt Walsh ironically did this in an attempt to set AOC up. She has no play here. What are the legal hoops necessary for something like this to happen? Even if she did take it, what does Walsh expect in return? What obligations are AOC expected to undertake? If you think the needless political hate AOC takes is bad now, just wait if she went on record accepting this.

Come on, we all know this was a lose/lose for her. She was making a fairly accurate observation and Walsh decided to politically exploit it to make her look bad.
Fair is fair.
AOC used her grandmother's plight for political purpose.
This opened the door for others to exploit it too.
She doesn't appear to anticipate the potentially politically
damaging consequences of her actions. She'll learn, eh.

I was curious why AOC might turn down free money, so I
clicked on the link to the GoFundMe campaign. Perhaps
there was mischievous agenda laden language?
But I saw "Campaign Not Found".
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
What happened is AOC publicly posts the interior of her grandmothers home on social media and harshly critized how relief aid was never forwarded to help victims of disaster. Particularly Puerto Rico victims for this case.

Fair enough call, but when she was accused of not helping her own grandmother, sharing her own wealth to make life better for her grandmother, she refuses to help her making excuse after excuse why she won't.

So a conservative fundraiser was started to help her grandmother out since AOC won't, and it was a great success raising a considerable amount.

The money raised was then offered to aid her grandmother, and it was refused leaving her grandmother to remain in the same situation.

A right-wing writer who crowdfunded $100,000 to repair the Puerto Rico home of AOC's grandmother says she declined to accept the money

AOC doesn't want to share her own wealth to help even personal family members, but politically she expects that to be the case for other people to share their wealth with strangers. This is hypocritical behavior.

This is why politics fail.

This is why people never are better off because...

1) Politictions don't lead by example nor follow their own philosophy.

2) Bi-partisanship is a pipe dream for as long as this two party monopoly exists.

3) Social Media implementation using people, including own family, as chessboard pawns for political positioning and activism.

It's a sad thing and grandmother gets nothing.
If she really did that, that's horrible and shameful.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Aw, your obsession with this woman is adorable. Where by adorable, I mean, you should probably be on list somewhere.
The left's obsession with defending their
rising star is equally adorable. I suggest
finding a brighter star.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Aw, your obsession with this woman is adorable. Where by adorable, I mean, you should probably be on list somewhere.


She's high profile. It's hard not for people to notice her social media antics and she's a congress person drawing a $174,000 taxpayer funded salary.

If you want real honest to goodness obsession, remember all the anti Trump posters and the endless countless threads made about him.

Maybe you could make a proper counter point on this for once instead posting only ad honimon commentary.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
She's high profile. It's hard not for people to notice her social media antics and she's a congress person drawing a $174,000 taxpayer funded salary.

If you want real honest to goodness obsession, remember all the anti Trump posters and the endless countless threads made about him.

Maybe you could make a proper counter point on this for once instead posting only ad honimon commentary.
For whichever of her faults that you find boiling your urine at any given time try comparing them to the faults of Donald Trump. I can't think of anything about her apparent nature that I dislike that isn't glaringly worse in Trump.

I would guess you think she's a dumb, attention-seeking, vain snowflake. Who does that sound like?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
For whichever of her faults that you find boiling your urine at any given time try comparing them to the faults of Donald Trump. I can't think of anything about her apparent nature that I dislike that isn't glaringly worse in Trump.

I would guess you think she's a dumb, attention-seeking, vain snowflake. Who does that sound like?
So answer the question then.

Why did AOC use her grandmother on social media, made a very public rant using interior photos of her grandmothers damaged home, and then never bothered to help her?
 
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