AOC, you poor troubled naive' girl. Yet another blunder for the media drama queen.

[Twilight Hue]

Let's back up for a moment. How about you tell us why you think it's appropriate to call a 31-year-old congresswoman with a double major in economics and international relations a "naive girl"?

(Spoiler: it's not)

Um... the reality by the facts that transpired . ..

Obviously her education dosent seem to have paid off very well. For a supposed intellectual, a person who 'analyzes' and 'thinks', It dosent seem to have been been too effective thus far.

 

[Twilight Hue]

To quote Kris Kristofferson: "It's all a bloody circus and the clowns are in control."

Ohhh.. I really miss Kristofferson.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Um... the reality by the facts that transpired . ..

Obviously her education dosent seem to have paid off very well. For a supposed intellectual, a person who 'analyzes' and 'thinks', It dosent seem to have been been too effective thus far.

Actually, aside from the designer's issues, it has certainly gotten people talking. It made a statement and people are discussing it.

 

[anna.]

 

[Revoltingest]

The thread is about the spokesperson and their argument not being a sincere pair, which is fine when deciding if she is worthy to carry the message or vote again, but making the claim that the message is invalid because of it is an ad hominem.

I don't know about her sincerity, so I don't challenge that.
But her message is invalid as mere dog whistle.

 

[Revoltingest]

Um... the reality by the facts that transpired . ..

Obviously her education dosent seem to have paid off very well. For a supposed intellectual, a person who 'analyzes' and 'thinks', It dosent seem to have been been too effective thus far.

Degrees are no guarantee that one will actually
implement the ostensible intelligence & learning.

 

[Revoltingest]

Actually, aside from the designer's issues, it has certainly gotten people talking. It made a statement and people are discussing it.

Silly analogy time....
Bob Enyart got people talking about dying of Covid.

 

[The Hammer]

It's still a gift nominally worth $35k.
Think she'll pay tax on this income?
Or do politicians like her get a pass for
receiving the perquisites of the wealthy?

We don't tax gifts?

Also, her stance on taxing the rich has no basis on whether or not someone gave her the gift of a ticket. That sounds amore like hypocrisy to me.

"She's a socialist democrat, therefore she isn't allowed to have money or nice things". FYI that's not how socialism works. It's largely about not getting rich off someone else's hard work.

 

[Revoltingest]

We don't tax gifts?

We do....sometimes.
It can be comlpicated.
Gift Tax | Internal Revenue Service

Also, her stance on taxing the rich has no basis on whether or not someone gave her the gift of a ticket. That sounds amore like hypocrisy to me.

The OP appears to be in part about exactly that, ie, hypocrisy.

"She's a socialist democrat, therefore she isn't allowed to have money or nice things".

Do you believe that?
Did you read the OP's linked article about
the kind of person AOC admires?

FYI that's not how socialism works. It's largely about not getting rich off someone else's hard work.

I haven't addressed socialism in this thread, so your
argument about how it works is with someone else.

 

[The Hammer]

We do....sometimes.
It can be comlpicated.
Gift Tax | Internal Revenue Service

The OP appears to be in part about exactly that, ie, hypocrisy.

Do you believe that?
Did you read the OP's linked article about
the kind of person AOC admires?

I haven't addressed socialism in this thread, so your
argument about how it works is with someone else.

I don't find being given a gift hypocritical. But I do think the person in the article should be held accountable for tax dodging.

And no you didn't. But that seems to be everyone's typical beef with AOC, so whether or not you mentioned it, it was the crux of the issue (for most).

Edit: The gift tax references the giving of "property", that doesn't sound like it applies to gala tickets imo. But I don't work for the IRS.

 

[The Hammer]

But her message is invalid as mere dog whistle.

Taxing the rich is a dog whistle? Lmao...... That's "rich"

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Silly analogy time....
Bob Enyart got people talking about dying of Covid.

Indeed!

I don't know about her sincerity, so I don't challenge that.
But her message is invalid as mere dog whistle.

May I ask how being a "dog whistle" makes it invalid?

Invalidity of an argument is make by showing that a premise is not correct, suggesting that the conclusion is incorrect. It might be that "taxing the rich" is an invalid argument, but that's not based on its use as a dog whistle, which simply suggests the message is being used as performantive to energize her base or call attention to a cause.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Um... the reality by the facts that transpired . ..

Which "facts" do you think justify your misogyny? Please be specific.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Which "facts" do you think justify your misogyny? Please be specific.

You have to ask?

AOC brings her own facts.

She's dippy and naive'

Think it's fake news? Her photo shoot is a deep fake?

Open your eyes man!

 

[Mock Turtle]

Ohhhh...

That's an angle I didn't expect.

Just remember 'Fat Cats' and it will be appropriate.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't find being given a gift hypocritical. But I do think the person in the article should be held accountable for tax dodging.

And no you didn't. But that seems to be everyone's typical beef with AOC, so whether or not you mentioned it, it was the crux of the issue (for most).

Edit: The gift tax references the giving of "property", that doesn't sound like it applies to gala tickets imo. But I don't work for the IRS.

If not applicable to spendy gala tickets, this could
very well be one of those "loopholes" the left so
often decries. A mitigating factor could be that a
major portion is actually a donation.
But the criticism I see is supporting a wealthy tax
thief...keeping payroll withholding is pretty darn
illegal, & more than just tax avoidance or evasion.

 

[Revoltingest]

Taxing the rich is a dog whistle? Lmao...... That's "rich"

It suggests that the wealthy aren't taxed, which is false.
Further, it proposes nothing. It's a tribal team cheer.
Fire up the masses to punish those with money...except
for fellow lefties.

 

[Revoltingest]

May I ask how being a "dog whistle" makes it invalid?

You may.
But the label doesn't invalidate anything.
It's just a description of how the battle cry's purpose.

Invalidity of an argument is make by showing that a premise is not correct, suggesting that the conclusion is incorrect. It might be that "taxing the rich" is an invalid argument, but that's not based on its use as a dog whistle, which simply suggests the message is being used as performantive to energize her base or call attention to a cause.

Hey, if the right uses the "dog whistle" as a call to arms,
then certainly the left shouldn't be denied that same tool.
The label applies to both.

I caution my leftish friends about hitching their wagon
to this particular rising star.

 

[The Hammer]

It suggests that the wealthy aren't taxed, which is false.

Most people pay their taxes sure. But there are enough rich offshore account holders dodging them as well. Close those loopholes. And tax them higher.

Edited for link: Super Rich Hide $21 Trillion Offshore, Study Says

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Hey, if the right uses the "dog whistle" as a call to arms,
then certainly the left shouldn't be denied that same tool.
The label applies to both.

I agree!