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Apparently, the Buddha prophesied the coming of Jesus

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Being
Premium Member
Buddha Prophesized about the coming of Jesus

I was going to post this in the Buddhist DIR for the Buddhist to discuss amongst ourselves, but I decided to have everyone else chime in to see what they think about it.

What seemed odd to me was the buddha reference to sin and not being able to reach the highest heaven without the help of yet another anointed one. That isnt buddhism, one fundamental aspect of buddhism is that "salvation" can be achieved by anyone, that the potential is within. I dont remember buddhas mentioning not being fully liberated because of sin still holding them down. The highest heaven aspect gets into elitism mentality where invisible blemishes are eliminated only by adhering to certian dogma.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Well the concept of the vow of the Bodhisattva is in itself compatible I think with the teachings of Jesus so you could perhaps make a case that Buddha was preparing the world for Jesus as a Bodhisattva..

Beings are numberless, I vow to save them
Desires are inexhaustible, I vow to end them
Dharma gates are boundless, I vow to enter them
Buddha's way is unsurpassable, I vow to become it.


I would also recommend the Gospel of Buddha by Paul Carus.

The Gospel of Buddha

Carus was a Unitarian minister who studied Buddhism .. His references in the back of the book show parallels between the Gospels and Buddhist materials.

The Gospel of Buddha is a rather vulgar book. It translates certain words (such as dharma) to mean things that would hint at Christian relation.

I've yet to see anything decent come from it.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Why does one religion or system have to have influenced or been the source of another? Isn't it possible that Jesus, Krishna and the Buddha were all enlightened enough to bring essentially the same message to their particular audiences in their particular times and places? Would a Jew of first century Palestine understand anything to do with south Asian society or culture? Would an Indian have any way of relating to Jewish culture? All three taught reform and right living, and a way to escape, in a way meaningful to their audiences. This is why I don't have a problem melding their teachings. They are not so very different after all, on a deeper level. But this is just my view.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
The issue to me isn't necessarily theological, it's more philosophical. There are those in certain religions who just can't seem to accept the fact that there are those who would disagree with them, on a philosophically fundamental level. Eastern religion works by a completely different paradigm than Abrahamic religions. While Bahai's might think they're theology is moving in a more progressive direction, and attempts to unite all the world's religions, we have to understand that, while some might see this as noble, there is an inherent danger. To me, the Bahai point of view isn't really any different than fundamentalist Islam or Christianity. And I'll take it a step further: Bahai theology is even more disingenuous, as it says that it unites all the world's religions, but is firmly rooted in an Abrahamic worldview, completely denying anything Eastern. Bahai's may very much mean well, but their underlying philosophical worldview is inherently flawed and illogical.

And this leads to my OP: there is a great danger in attempting to interpret one's religions philosophy and scriptures from a completely different worldview. You simply cannot take an Eastern religion, and try to understand it from a western perspective. The philosophical worldview between the Dharmic religions and Abrahamic religions are so fundamentally different, that any attempt at convergence or syncretism is simply unfathomable.

In fact what Baha'i Faith teaches is this: all major religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Jewish, Christianity, Islam....are Truth and each one of them is a way to God that appeared in each Age for a People and Baha'i Faith is not the final revelation, but in future Ages, God again and again reveals new teachings that would be even better than Baha'i Faith.
Consider what Baha'i Faith teaches, and then compare it with what most other people believe: That only our religion is true, and other religions are false or corrupted, and our religion is the final religion, no other religion after our religion is needed and if you do not believe in our religion you end up burning in Hell forever and ever more - Amen
Not even that, I challenge anyone, to bring a Sharia Law or any other Laws and teachings form any other Religion, then I can bring either a better teaching from Baha'i Scriptures or at least the equivalent, regarding any subject.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
InvestigateTruth said:
Consider what Baha'i Faith teaches, and then compare it with what most other people believe: That only our religion is true, and other religions are false or corrupted, and our religion is the final religion, no other religion after our religion is needed and if you do not believe in our religion you end up burning in Hell forever and ever more - Amen

That's an Abrahamic concept; it's not generally found in Eastern religions.

Not even that, I challenge anyone, to bring a Sharia Law or any other Laws and teachings form any other Religion, then I can bring either a better teaching from Baha'i Scriptures or at least the equivalent, regarding any subject.

To be judged by who?
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
That's an Abrahamic concept; it's not generally found in Eastern religions.

I would say those concepts pretty much also exist in non-Abrahamic Religions as well. For example in Hinduism it is believed by The Bhagavata Purana and the Devi Bhagavata Purana a hell is reserved for a person who digresses from the religious teachings of the Vedas and indulges in heresy.[2][3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Hinduism)



To be judged by who?
By our fair judgement? the criteria is how fair, fruitful, beneficial and suitable the teachings are to solve the problems of mankind in our Age.
You can just try one Law or teaching and see ...
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
I would say those concepts pretty much also exist in non-Abrahamic Religions as well. For example in Hinduism it is believed by The Bhagavata Purana and the Devi Bhagavata Purana a hell is reserved for a person who digresses from the religious teachings of the Vedas and indulges in heresy.[2][3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Hinduism)

Except the hell realms are understood mostly as metaphor, and even for those who believe they're literal, knows that it's only temporary.

By our fair judgement? the criteria is how fair, fruitful, beneficial and suitable the teachings are to solve the problems of mankind in our Age.
You can just try one Law or teaching and see ...

Except that both of us would be biased in favor of our own religious teachings.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Except the hell realms are understood mostly as metaphor, and even for those who believe they're literal, knows that it's only temporary.



Except that both of us would be biased in favor of our own religious teachings.
I wouldn't be biased to be fair. To make it easier we don't have to even debate much. Just putting two verse be side each other for the sake of it.
 

Philomath

Sadhaka
I would say those concepts pretty much also exist in non-Abrahamic Religions as well. For example in Hinduism it is believed by The Bhagavata Purana and the Devi Bhagavata Purana a hell is reserved for a person who digresses from the religious teachings of the Vedas and indulges in heresy.[2][3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Hinduism)

I really dislike these broad overarching statements about Hinduism because all Hindu's do not believe in hell.
 
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