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Are abrahamic faiths the most convenient?

Chisti

Active Member
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necesary. God will do his thing, you do yours.

Dharmic religions like Buddhism, otoh, require more effort and discipline. Merely believing in god or some founder isn't enough. Work has to be done, such as meditation, self control, observation etc. So it could get frustrating, and there is nothing to fall back on.

So as far as convenience and simplicity are concerned, abrahamic faiths are
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necesary. God will do his thing, you do yours.

Dharmic religions like Buddhism, otoh, require more effort and discipline. Merely believing in god or some founder isn't enough. Work has to be done, such as meditation, self control, observation etc. So it could get frustrating, and there is nothing to fall back on.

So as far as convenience and simplicity are concerned, abrahamic faiths are

So it easy to believe in an all loving god who will send me to hell or a creator god who made a young earth, or accepting a book rideled with falsehoods and contridictions as truth?
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Though you make an interesting point. And think I agree with your statment on many levels but then again how disciplined is the laymen of the eastern paths?
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necesary.

If you think that, you've never investigated the Baha'i Faith (which, please note, is eminently Abrahamic)!

Peace, :)

Bruce
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If you think that, you've never investigated the Baha'i Faith (which, please note, is eminently Abrahamic)!

Peace, :)

Bruce
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abrahamic religion are 3 Judaism,christianity & Islam.

IMO Baha'i is just a man made religion and similar to many other styles found around the world.
 

Bob Dixon

>implying
abrahamic religion are 3 Judaism,christianity & Islam.

IMO Baha'i is just a man made religion and similar to many other styles found around the world.

In some other people's opinion, Islam is a man-made religion, similar to many others.
Abrahamic religions include any religions who trace themselves, spiritually, back to Abraham.

Also, OP, you only described Christianity.
And only a fraction of Christianity, for that matter.

In Christianity (groups who think that works are important), Judaism, Islam, and the others, hard work is required!

I do know what you mean, though. It is easier. But then, consider the big limit Abrahamic religions put on you: only one earthly life.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
In some other people's opinion, Islam is a man-made religion, similar to many others.
Abrahamic religions include any religions who trace themselves, spiritually, back to Abraham.

Also, OP, you only described Christianity.
And only a fraction of Christianity, for that matter.

In Christianity (groups who think that works are important), Judaism, Islam, and the others, hard work is required!

I do know what you mean, though. It is easier. But then, consider the big limit Abrahamic religions put on you: only one earthly life.

No,not correct.judaism,chritianity and islam are due to messengers of god but Baha,i
is found by a man called Bahá'u'lláh ,he isn't a meesenger even to his followeres.

So sorry,it is a man made religion and not among the Abrahamic religion IMO
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necessary. God will do his thing, you do yours.

Dharmic religions like Buddhism, otoh, require more effort and discipline. Merely believing in god or some founder isn't enough. Work has to be done, such as meditation, self control, observation etc. So it could get frustrating, and there is nothing to fall back on.

So as far as convenience and simplicity are concerned, abrahamic faiths are

I think the Religions of Abraham require more than you think. Christianity hasn't been very simple for me, and I do an awful lot of thinking for it. Do you think it doesn't require discipline to love your enemies, and to even love all your neighbors, even? Do you think learning scripture and study doesn't take any effort? I am sure it takes effort to be a Muslim, a Jew, a Baha'i, as well.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
In Christianity (groups who think that works are important), Judaism, Islam, and the others, hard work is required!

I do know what you mean, though. It is easier. But then, consider the big limit Abrahamic religions put on you: only one earthly life.

I agree i think that Muslims, Jews and Catholics and Ortohdoxes do put effort in there religion.

Just look at islam: washing yourself 5times a day and then pray 5times a day (waking up in the mid-night and early morning), doing ramadan, reading the whole quran in ramadan, doing haji(pilgrimage), zakat(paying 2,5% of your wealth to the poor), daily behaviour, dawah(teaching people islam) these are all obligations and the list is much bigger.

I am pretty sure Islam has more ''in-it'' then Buddhism at-least in its work and how i understand both. I am not saying the one is better then the other though.
 

robo

Active Member
So sorry,it is a man made religion and not among the Abrahamic religion IMO

Well, that is great. Whenever I post a question on Islam here, it is mostly Bahai members who try to provide me with a correct interpretation of Quranic verses. What a great way for you to pay them back.

In any case, please let me know how one can differentiate between a man-made religion and a God-given religion.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necesary. God will do his thing, you do yours.
You're kidding right?
Observant Jews pray 3 times a day, observe dietary laws, keep the Sabbath, fast, study the written and oral Torah. Observant Muslims travel across the world on pilgrimage to the Kaaba at Mecca, refrain from alcohol, and observe various other practices on regular basis.
Dharmic religions like Buddhism, otoh, require more effort and discipline. Merely believing in god or some founder isn't enough. Work has to be done, such as meditation, self control, observation etc. So it could get frustrating, and there is nothing to fall back on.
Not from what I observed. meditation, self control, or observation are hardly unique to Dharmic religion. They are all found in Abrahamic religions.

So as far as convenience and simplicity are concerned, abrahamic faiths are
What a remarkably ignorant remark.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Abrahamic faiths require little effort and more faith - just believe in god, that he will reward the righteous and punish the wicked. This is very simple and convenient, no thinking or effort is necesary.

Damn, i've been missing out on this party. I've wasted my life for nothing.

Why didn't you tell me this much earlier? I would've saved 2o years of thinking and working.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well, that is great. Whenever I post a question on Islam here, it is mostly Bahai members who try to provide me with a correct interpretation of Quranic verses. What a great way for you to pay them back.

In any case, please let me know how one can differentiate between a man-made religion and a God-given religion.

i am saying what i think is the truth,i don't know how to make lies.
islam is to believe that the creator is only one whom we can't see but we should
accept his message which were sent by all his messengers through their holy books and
we should accept anything which may occurred during our life whether bad or good and
also we should believe that there is an after life and judgement day.

One of the reason that we got many religions in the world is because such men who made their own religion.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
abrahamic religion [sic] are 3 Judaism, christianity & Islam.

Only partially true.

There are two more:

  • the Babi Faith
  • the Baha'i Faith
IMO Baha'i is just a man made religion and similar to many other styles found around the world.

You are welcome to your opinion. But millions of people see the Baha'i Faith very much otherwise!

So you might want to be just a bit more accurate about which religions are Abrahamic.

Baha, is found [sic] by a man called Bahá'u'lláh ,he isn't a meesenger even to his followeres.


This statement couldn't be more wrong!

Baha'u'llah is most emphatically viewed by Baha'is as a God-sent Divine Messenger, NOT as a mere man!

Once again, a mere five minutes studying the Baha'i Faith woud make this clear!


Peace,

Bruce
 
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BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
[P]lease let me know how one can differentiate between a man-made religion and a God-given religion.

There are a number of criteria:

  • the virtue and integrity of its founder
  • the "book" or teachings he brings
  • the spiritual "fruits" the religion produces (the famous Biblical test, with the fruits listed in Galatians)
  • the prophecies fulfilled by the appearance of the religion
  • the prophecies the religion itself makes which then prove true
  • the spiritual effect the religion has on the lives and standards of its followers
(There are doubtless others as well, but this list should do for a start.)

Best! :)

Bruce
 
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