Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Some churches have inferred otherwise, however, the Bible does not mince it's words,
John 3:36
& other verses,
All atheists might be facing Hell.
John 3:36
& other verses,
All atheists might be facing Hell.
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Are all atheists facing Hell?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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What is it you want to debate?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Good thing there is no hell to face.
chickenranch
Member
Only the Christian ones that believe the Bible.
...wait...
No.
...wait...
No.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Where is Lucifer?
Is there such a thing as an official Satanic commentary on the Bible? I've never heard of it.
Skwim
Veteran Member
IDK the way it reads atheists might already be in hell.
OK, well, most atheists don't consider the Bible to be authoritative. In fact, many of us think it to be completely unbelievable.
Um. Another fable?
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Hanging round film and TV studios looking for another bit part.
This is another example of the ancient recipe.
Create an imaginary problem, the worse the better.
Promise the solution that only you possess.
Sell lots of snake oil.
Skwim
Veteran Member
John 3:36 are the words of John the Baptist. I only consider Jesus's own words in the NT to be totally true. All others are merely humans trying to interpret what the Christ has said.
What the Christ himself has said about hell is given in Matthew 25:31-46. People who are condemned are people who will not feed those who are hungry,will not take care of those who are sick or will not welcome strangers or do not care about those in prison.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Atheist dont believe in deities (any). You cant reject someone that does not exist.
The verse is referring to those who know god exist and willingfully reject him.
This verse does not apply to non believers. It refers to those who reject god. They arent the same thing.
For example, according to protestant modern christian interpretation of scripture, I will go to hell. I experienced baptism, the holy spirit, sufferex in christ, thereby god, and walked away. I didnt reject but thats between christ and I.
On that note other Churches believe Im a lapsed christian. I wont go to hell unless I committed grave sin without repentence since scripture says christians are judged by their deeds. They believe once with christ always with christ. One can walk away but there is no negativity because they feel all are pulled back to christ.
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Desert Snake
Veteran Member
That is just silly, similar to some catholic idea that the only people judged in a christian context, are catholics and the 'bad'/other christians.
Do you realize how bizarre that idea is?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
There is a waiting list for condos in hell, if you get on the list early, you might be able to skip a level.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I had to go from my phone to my laptop for this. Something's not clickin'.
I don't see how this relates to my comment: Atheist don't believe in deities (any). You cannot reject someone that does not exist. The verse (in the OP) is referring to those who know god exist and willingly reject him.
This verse doesn't apply to non believers-people who do not believe in god. It refers to those who reject god.
Atheist cannot reject someone that does not exist
Not all non-believers reject god just because they do not believe
The verse doesn't apply to these sets of people unless that person actually rejects (negative connotation) christ. Not many people reject christ. They just choose not to follow him.
Though I don't know how the Catholic-comment connects...
Catholics believe all people are coming to or in Christ via baptism regardless the denomination. What makes one a Catholic is they take the physical (not symbolic) sacraments of Christ and join in worship to physically commune at their Lord's actual supper. There are no "bad" christians in Catholicism. Once you're baptized, you're Christian.
The "only people judge" sentence I don't understand.
That's a protestant thing.
I don't see how this relates to my comment: Atheist don't believe in deities (any). You cannot reject someone that does not exist. The verse (in the OP) is referring to those who know god exist and willingly reject him.
This verse doesn't apply to non believers-people who do not believe in god. It refers to those who reject god.
Atheist cannot reject someone that does not exist
Not all non-believers reject god just because they do not believe
The verse doesn't apply to these sets of people unless that person actually rejects (negative connotation) christ. Not many people reject christ. They just choose not to follow him.
Though I don't know how the Catholic-comment connects...
Catholics believe all people are coming to or in Christ via baptism regardless the denomination. What makes one a Catholic is they take the physical (not symbolic) sacraments of Christ and join in worship to physically commune at their Lord's actual supper. There are no "bad" christians in Catholicism. Once you're baptized, you're Christian.
The "only people judge" sentence I don't understand.
What is bizarre is trying to figure how your comment relates to my post. The closest Catholicism relates to my reply is they don't believe in non-believers who have been baptized in christ. They don't believe people baptized have rejected christ. That's why they have RCIA for returning catholics. They don't turn people away.
That's a protestant thing.
Why would they care about this little fiction of yours?