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Are atheists irrational?

Muffled

Jesus in me
I think many people do that depending on their maturity and age. I don't think it's just an "atheist" thing. :)

I believe that makes sense because most people don't pretend to be logical but this person was trumpeting how logical he was.
 

McBell

Unbound
Do I "hear" you using a self-defining quote? :)
I have no idea what you "hear".
It is painfully obvious that you either severely lack reading comprehension or you are so adept at spinning what you "hear" into what you want to "hear" that honest discourse with you is all but impossible.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
I have no idea what you "hear".
It is painfully obvious that you either severely lack reading comprehension or you are so adept at spinning what you "hear" into what you want to "hear" that honest discourse with you is all but impossible.

You misunderstood my attempt at humor. You made a rude, dismissive comment against me, rather than responding in anger, I made it a joke and said it referred to you.

Lighten up!
 

McBell

Unbound
You misunderstood my attempt at humor. You made a rude, dismissive comment against me, rather than responding in anger, I made it a joke and said it referred to you.

Lighten up!
It is interesting that you take the reporting of an observed fact as a "rude, dismissive comment".
At least you are consistent.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
It is interesting that you take the reporting of an observed fact as a "rude, dismissive comment".
At least you are consistent.

So I was honest about what I did and why so you moved off the topic of the glorious Lord, Jesus Christ, to make an ad hom/personal remark?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
As an avid atheist and to the greater degree anti-theist I have been trying for over a year to come to grips with what I believe and stand for. So many atheists prattle about reason and logic while even when I was a Muslim I did the exact same thing although with less intellectual contradictions. The more I speak to atheists and try to understand things that are valued to us like science and pragmaticism I find myself incapable of rationalizing my own atheism.

When I was a Muslim the primary reason I left Islam was because of other Muslims and also become of the ideology yet here I am in something that should be creedless and the minute I question something that is secular I am a public enemy amongst atheists. Just by questioned transgender issues I have been called a fake atheist and closet Christian. I used to cling to being a deist for this very reason as I could never understand the anger I witnessed by atheists, it made no sense to be angry at not religion but at secular ideas.

I witness conservatives, Christians, libertarians and pragmatic thinkers on religion criticize atheist for creating gods out of secular constructs and I can't help but wonder that this is the truth. As of now I am sure this is the truth as I am incapable of finding an atheist who is stringent with his principles and a fervent believer in safeguarding his own morals.

As of now I cannot call myself an atheist anymore. I do not believe in the supernatural yet all I have left is philosophy and all that emanates from it.

Atheism is a rational position to me yet every atheist I know is so irrational.

It does not matter if you think atheists you happen to know are irrational or not. That does not determine the rationality of not believing in a god or gods. The criticism you stated about religious people thinking that atheists construct gods out of secular constructs is bogus. I know of no atheist that worships any social construct. If they want to go down that route, then there are millions of gods in the world.....baseball, football, soccer, nationalism......mom's apple pie......the list is virtually endless. They cannot defend theism by defining a god as anything you earnestly believe. That is the epitome of irrationality.
 
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