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I spoke with a PETA representative who wanted to save kittens. But kittens are carnivores (eat cows). Cows are peaceful herbivores. Doesn't it make more sense to save cows?
In the above video Stephen Lett (Governing Body member of the Jehovah's Witnesses) claims babies are, "enemies of God".
He immediately clarifies that he loves babies, but it is worth a good laugh seeing the theological clumsiness of one of 8 leaders of approx. 8.7 million people.
Which brings us to the question, are babies enemies of God in your faith tradition?
In my opinion
Does it have to be a binary choice? (Our cats aren't given beef cat food).I spoke with a PETA representative who wanted to save kittens. But kittens are carnivores (eat cows). Cows are peaceful herbivores. Doesn't it make more sense to save cows?
That's explained in the clip, nonetheless it is clear that the deduction he makes from original sin doctrine is that babies are "enemies of God", and I dont think most people who believe in original sin doctrine would support his deduction or conclusion.His words maybe quite offensive sounding, but what he says has been misrepresented as clickbait in my personal opinion. I don't think it's justice. He was obviously referring to the original sin. This guy who comments in the video obviously knows that.
But thanks for sharing. Good to know.
Bonus points for pointing out the deduction of Stephen Lett is un-biblical.
That's explained in the clip, nonetheless it is clear that the deduction he makes from original sin doctrine is that babies are "enemies of God",
and I dont think most people who believe in original sin doctrine would support his deduction or conclusion.
Without him laying out his premises i wouldn't know if it is sound, but I suspect that even if the logic is sound the premises are wrong to begin with.But for curiosities sake, according to you, is that deduction wrong logically? How so?
Without him laying out his premises i wouldn't know if it is sound, but I suspect that even if the logic is sound the premises are wrong to begin with.
Thus the conclusion appears at best invalid if sound, but maybe non-sequitur.
I dont know because he hasn't laid out his premises.
In my opinion.
We are born sinners... that's a basic belief in Christianity.
His words maybe quite offensive sounding, but what he says has been misrepresented as clickbait in my personal opinion. I don't think it's justice. He was obviously referring to the original sin. This guy who comments in the video obviously knows that.
But thanks for sharing. Good to know.
Of course, atheists eat babies, they are delicious
Since this is about original sin, then this comment would imply that original sin is genetic based. It would be innate within human babies, but does not begin to express itself, until babies become children, who are required to buy into adult laws and knowledge of good and evil; eat of that symbolic tree, based on adult induced education. This is analogous to the stages of life, that are innate at birth but unfold as we age, based on our human DNA.
Babies and small children are natural and spontaneous. Adults give them slack and allow them to get way with being a free spirit, since they are harmless and can be delightful. But at about the time of starting school, they begin to acquire insecurities; childhood good and evil, which takes way the inner child of the baby; social herd animal.
In Genesis, after Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they suddenly realized they were naked and try to cover up. The baby and the small child do not understand any shame for walking around naked. They get their diaper changed in public and enjoy the freedom without one.
The shame of naked is learned as an older child and this begins to influence them along with a range of adult taught social needs and insecurities. This bible example seems to confirm the theory of a generic transition from the innocence of the baby. Good and evil is acquired knowledge. The ancients were quite smart and noticed the metamorphic change from innocence to original sin, that was innate in all children at birth, but becomes expressed though cultural eduction.
If you are fortunate to have a child who is still natural and about to start school, watch for the change. It has to do with education being 2-D; good and evil. This induces a shift in the ego from the creative right brain of the baby, to the differential left brain of the adult. This causes the ego to develop in a more willful cultural way. To become as children again, is about a migration back to right brain, where its 3-D nature begins to integrate us, instead of differentiate and divide us. Unless we become children again; right brain, we cannot enter the kingdom of nature and God; paradise.
No, in our faith we don't kill our babies as they are the blessings of God for us. If we thought they were enemies of God, we would support abortion.
In the above video Stephen Lett (Governing Body member of the Jehovah's Witnesses) claims babies are, "enemies of God".
He immediately clarifies that he loves babies, but it is worth a good laugh seeing the theological clumsiness of one of 8 leaders of approx. 8.7 million people.
Which brings us to the question, are babies enemies of God in your faith tradition?
In my opinion
This is another Christian belief I never really could wrap my head around, and no member of the clergy could offer a logical explanation as to why. Can any Christians here explain to me how a newborn baby is a "sinner?"
It is a strategy, Salix, why would Christians explain it? Born in sin, and only Jesus can save you. Repenting to Krishna or Allah does not save you.Can any Christians here explain to me how a newborn baby is a "sinner?"
At least he doesn't support killing them like abortionists do.
In the above video Stephen Lett (Governing Body member of the Jehovah's Witnesses) claims babies are, "enemies of God".
He immediately clarifies that he loves babies, but it is worth a good laugh seeing the theological clumsiness of one of 8 leaders of approx. 8.7 million people.
Which brings us to the question, are babies enemies of God in your faith tradition?
In my opinion
At least he doesn't support killing them like abortionists do.