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Are Christians polytheists?

Aset's Flames

Viperine Asetian
Nope. I'm a Christian and am monotheistic. The God that I worship is ONE God who has presented as three separate manifestations: Father, Son & Holy Spirit. If I pray to Christ, the Holy Spirit or to my Father, I am crying out to the same God.

Look:

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How many clovers do you see? ONE. The ONE clover has three distinctive leaves, characteristics or attributes. Still ONE clover.

I don't know any Christian who worships Mary or any of the Saints. Reverence for Saints & intercessory prayer does not worship make. I'm not a Catholic, therefore, I don't personally revere the Saints in the same way that Catholics do nor do I believe that intercessory prayer is necessary. I do not however, take issue with their practice or consider their practices polytheistic in nature.

By that reasoning most Wiccans and Hindus are monotheistic.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
Not to mention the overlaps...
My wife is also my friend.
Same with co-workers
Yes. I agree.

Many aspects do over-lap. At the same time there are some that do not, some that are so different, that in trying to describe them -- to a particular person, with a particular perspective -- it may be perceived you're talking about a completely different person.

One's spouse may be friend, and also intimate partner. One's child would know one as friend at some point, but never as intimate partner. A co-worker may know one as friend, maybe even as teacher, but won't know one as child.

I think, if God exists, in order for a being to be as complete as God would have to be, there would have to be aspects that from our perspective appear to be contradictory, or belonging to some other being -- but I think the limitation would that we cannot view all perspectives at one time. We can lean into other perspective, but I don't think we can abandon our own completely.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Because we have a saying from Umar r.a. He said: I know you(stone) cannot benefit me nor harm me, if the prophet pbuh didnt kissed u i would never have kissed u.


So the stone is just symbolic direction of prayer. It has no power at all.

U can compare it to Jewish wall.


But christians say Mary can hear us and forgive our sins!
They say the same about saints and jesus pbuh
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So that is clearcut idolatry.

Who told you that? Your imam? Why don't you open up a Bible for yourself if you're interested in discovering what Christians believe
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Yes, but I don't claim Nurse Kelly is distinct from Plays Video Games Kelly who is distinct from Family Member Kelly. To have Jesus live an individual life must mean God was trapped in human form and thus not out running the universe. Just because I have several "me's" doesn't make them all real (I hope, LOL).

God, unlike me, is limitless. If you subscribe to the concept of a limitless God, which I do, the Trinity makes sense.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
God, unlike me, is limitless. If you subscribe to the concept of a limitless God, which I do, the Trinity makes sense.
Why stop at a Trinity? What about Sophia/Wisdom? There's nothing magical about the number 3. He could be one or a million or whatever. People believe in the Trinity because other people told them 3 is a magic number. I'm not a fan of numerology.
 

Useless2015

Active Member
They are what Muslims add to their god...

No.

“There is nothing like Him” (42.11).

“Vision cannot grasp Him, but He grasps all vision; and He is the Subtle One, the Aware One” (6.103).

Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, but He forgives anything other than this to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin. (4.48)

“Allah, there is no god but He, -- the Living the Self- subsisting Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permits? He knows what (appears to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He wills. His Throne does extend over the heavens and on earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).” (Qur’an 2:255)

“Say: ‘He is Allah the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetsnot, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him.”(Qur’an 112:1-4)
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Why stop at a Trinity? What about Sophia/Wisdom? There's nothing magical about the number 3. He could be one or a million or whatever. People believe in the Trinity because other people told them 3 is a magic number. I'm not a fan of numerology.

Why stop at the Trinity? The Triune God as I've described is my God. I do not accept other variances as truth in my faith/spiritual walk.

You can project what you think I believe and why all you'd like. Your projections negate not what I actually believe and why.
 
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The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
In islamic state(not isis......), a person who insults Jesus Moses, Muhammad or any other prophet of Allah must be either:
Killed or forced into exile. Also imprisonment is excellent option.
Such person is spreading corruption in the land and advocates satanism.

Whereas you're promoting barbarism, tyranny and intellectual stagnation.


I reject attackers of charlie hebdo.

But you probably believe Charlie Hebdo brought the violence upon themselves.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Unlike Jews and Muslims, Christians worship holy spirit and Jesus pbuh. They also worship saints and virgin Mary pbuh.

So they are clearly Polytheists.

Do u agree?
1) Christians worship the Holy Spirit and Jesus because they are fully One God.
2) They patently don't "worship" saints or Mary.

Therefore, they are clearly not polytheists.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Christians do not believe that God is One. According to the majority of Christians, God is not just God and end of story. It is believed that God is divided and not just One God. God is God, His son is God and His spirit is God. Ergo polytheism:)
Wrong. God is not "divided." God is One. Patently lying about what Christians believe doesn't automatically make you right.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
God is Absolute. There is nothing like Him, and everything He creates is not part of Him. He is One. I think there is nothing more simple than that. Everything beyond that is polytheism or atleast a form of polytheism.
If you're going to argue Christian theology, you have to know something about it. Simply making statements that aren't theologically tenable doesn't prove your "argument."
 

Aset's Flames

Viperine Asetian
I know damn well what I am and what I'm not. What Wiccans and Hindus are or aren't are for them to decide.

There is no reason to use harsh language.

I would propose that by this reasoning that even a reveler of the Greek pantheon could claim they are a monotheist but that does not make it true.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
There is no reason to use harsh language.

I would propose that by this reasoning that even a reveler of the Greek pantheon could claim they are a monotheist but that does not make it true.
The doctrine of the Trinity cannot, by any stretch of the imagination -- unless it's unfairly represented and tortured to mean what it does not mean, point to a "pantheon of gods." It's very specific that God is one God.
 
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