Are communism, Atheism, & Satanism mutually exclusive?

[SoliDeoGloria]

I have gotten some pretty interesting responses to this kind of subject before so I thought I would try it in here.

First off, I have seen an interview with Anton Levey (could be spelling his name wrong but I am talking about the guy who wrote the Satanic Bible and founded the Worldwide Church of Satan and I don't have the source for this right off hand but I could get it) where he was asked what his response would be to someone who called Satanism humanism under a different name and he responded that he would agree with them and that there were many Satanists out in the world that don't know it and call themselves humanists.

There was a reverend named Richard Wurmbrand who spent 14 years in Romanian Prisons during the Russian Communist era for being a Christian. He also founded Voice of the Martyers Ministries http://www.persecution.com . Among the books he has Authored is one titled "Marx & Satan" where he takes Marx's claim of Atheism and draws paralells with Satanism with from Marx like "Let us drive God out from heaven"

I have a pretty good feeling about what kind of responses there will be to this post so go ahead and feel free to suprise me.

Sincerely,
SoliDeogloria

 

[Tawn]

he responded that he would agree with them and that there were many Satanists out in the world that don't know it and call themselves humanists.

Well I dont know much about Satanism, but I think the type of satanism he is talking about isnt the same as the fictional god-hating virgin sacrificing fanatics..
There may well be parallels, but I think Satanism may involve certain spiritual beliefs that humanists do not share. At least not secular humanists. If you think that makes humanists evil - youre way off.

Among the books he has Authored is one titled "Marx & Satan" where he takes Marx's claim of Atheism and draws paralells with Satanism with from Marx like "Let us drive God out from heaven"

Youre trying to link different ideas together just because they happen to be compatible.
Marxism and communism are specifically interested in economics. There is no real reason communism has to be linked with Atheism, though many marxists might argue that the church is a social system which helps to keep the proloteriat in line.
Again, I dont know what type of Satanism youre trying to refer to, but Atheist/Marxists see religion as a lie - a lie which is maintaining social unfairness and it is for that reason that they wish to drive out the church. The line 'let us drive God out from heaven' is a poetic analogy. Atheists dont believe in God or Heaven.

Now as far I understand Satanists do believe in a spiritual realm. So the parallels you can draw between Satanists and Atheist/Marxists is more along the lines of: They have similar objectives, but for entirely different reasons..

It is quite natural for Christians to want to demonise the Atheists, but remember that (strong) Atheists arent against God. They are against the idea of God.. (note that not all Atheists are against religion - they accept the possibility of God being real and see no reason to regard religion as an evil)

 

[Serpens]

Communism and Satanism are polar opposites, and Atheism is a lack of subscription to a religious metaphysical model. Communism is a socio-economic system, one is a religion, and one is lack of religion.

Yes, they are mutually exclusive.

 

[TrueQ]

Ya think? Total indulgence can manifest itself as very strange things sometimes, who says it can't be a desire for equal standing of all humans? I think that Satanism, Athiesm, and Communism could be combined, and I'll bet that there are 100+ Satanists out there like that.

 

[SoliDeoGloria]

There may well be parallels, but I think Satanism may involve certain spiritual beliefs that humanists do not share. At least not secular humanists.

You are right about Satanism having certain spiritual beliefs. In that same interview I mentioned in the original post, Anton Levey qualifies that Satanism is a denial of spirituality and embracement of all that is carnal. He also emphasized how in Satanism, one is to give in to every carnal desire( The first law of Thelema ). So there is an acknowledgement of the spiritual but that is about as far as it gets.
With that being noted, one could almost make a parrallel between the differences of these two and the differences of certain Christian denominations. For example, Charismatic denominations believe that the nine supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit are still active today while Non-Cahrismatics do not. These Groups are still essentially Christian, but have some disagreements.

If you think that makes humanists evil - youre way off.

The Bible states that anything that is against God is evil. Even one following their own heart is Biblically considered evil (Jer. 17:9). Believe it or not, That wasn't the intent of the original post.

Youre trying to link different ideas together just because they happen to be compatible.

You got me there
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Marxism and communism are specifically interested in economics. There is no real reason communism has to be linked with Atheism, though many marxists might argue that the church is a social system which helps to keep the proloteriat in line.

Religion altogether is not allowed in Communism. Even Buddhism is not allowed in communist China (despite how ironic that is). The funny thing is that in pushing their position, most communist use the exact same arguements atheists do against belief in religions.

Again, I dont know what type of Satanism youre trying to refer to, but Atheist/Marxists see religion as a lie - a lie which is maintaining social unfairness and it is for that reason that they wish to drive out the church. The line 'let us drive God out from heaven' is a poetic analogy. Atheists dont believe in God or Heaven.

The kind os Satanism defined by Anton Levey. Satanism at least sees Christianity as a lie.

Now as far I understand Satanists do believe in a spiritual realm. So the parallels you can draw between Satanists and Atheist/Marxists is more along the lines of: They have similar objectives, but for entirely different reasons..

whether it is the furtherment of humanity as a whole(Atheists/Marxists) or in a personal sense (Satanism) it seems like the objectives and reasons behind them are very similar. You have only pointed out nonessential differences between the three. Essentially they are the same thing not only from a Biblicall view but almost from a philosophical one also.

It is quite natural for Christians to want to demonise the Atheists, but remember that (strong) Atheists arent against God. They are against the idea of God..

Once again, there is no essential difference between the two.

(note that not all Atheists are against religion - they accept the possibility of God being real and see no reason to regard religion as an evil)

I'm suprised no Atheists or Satanists came in here proclaiming how that is definitionally Agnosticism and not Atheism. They've done it to me (lol)

Ya think? Total indulgence can manifest itself as very strange things sometimes, who says it can't be a desire for equal standing of all humans? I think that Satanism, Athiesm, and Communism could be combined, and I'll bet that there are 100+ Satanists out there like that.

Spoken like a true Satanist

Sincerely,
SoliDeoGloria