Are demons real?

[Muffled]

I believe that demons are real and base that both on the Bible and my personal experience.

 

[Parsimony]

and my personal experience.

Care to share it with us? I would be interested in hearing it.

 

[Quintessence]

How do you define "demon?"

 

[Muffled]

Care to share it with us? I would be interested in hearing it.

My experience was that my wife hauled me off to see the movie the Exorcist. I did not want to go because I am not comfortable with evil. It was bad enough but a group of Hell's Angels sat two rows back. At any rate I was left with the impression of guilt which I had not dealt with in my relgious experience yet. In the night as soon as I closed my eyes all kinds of grotesque images were flashed before my eyes making sleep difficult. The Holy Spirit bailed me out by having me sing the words to "Nothing but the Blood of Jesus." After that I was no longer troubled by the images. I did not understand what that meant theologically at the time but I have since learned that the blood cleanses me of all sin. I don't remember the guilt being removed but I think the Holy Spirit did that without my knowing it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In my experience, yes.

 

[Muffled]

How do you define "demon?"

I beleive my definition is "evil spirit."

 

[Muffled]

In my experience, yes.

I believe I would like to hear you testify of your experience.

 

[Quintessence]

I beleive my definition is "evil spirit."

I'm going to presume by "spirit" you mean otherworldly or intangible. Does this mean a human or other creature of this-world cannot be a demon? Could you give an example of what you'd consider to be a demon?

Although this is probably beyond the scope of the thread, what makes something "evil?"

 

[fantome profane]

I believe that demons are real and base that both on the Bible and my personal experience.

Both unreliable sources.

My experience was that my wife hauled me off to see the movie the Exorcist. I did not want to go because I am not comfortable with evil. It was bad enough but a group of Hell's Angels sat two rows back. At any rate I was left with the impression of guilt which I had not dealt with in my relgious experience yet. In the night as soon as I closed my eyes all kinds of grotesque images were flashed before my eyes making sleep difficult. The Holy Spirit bailed me out by having me sing the words to "Nothing but the Blood of Jesus." After that I was no longer troubled by the images. I did not understand what that meant theologically at the time but I have since learned that the blood cleanses me of all sin. I don't remember the guilt being removed but I think the Holy Spirit did that without my knowing it.

You saw a scary move and it freaked you out.

The methods that some people use to draw conclusions about realty just amaze me.

 

[Muffled]

I'm going to presume by "spirit" you mean otherworldly or intangible. Does this mean a human or other creature of this-world cannot be a demon? Could you give an example of what you'd consider to be a demon?

Although this is probably beyond the scope of the thread, what makes something "evil?"

I believe that is correct although it is conceivable that a person's spirit could be evil but traditionally that is not considered to be a demon.

I beleive it is an out of body spirit communicating evil.

I beleive anything not in harmony with God is evil.

 

[Muffled]

Both unreliable sources.


You saw a scary move and it freaked you out.

The methods that some people use to draw conclusions about realty just amaze me.

I believe your opinions to be a lot less reliable than my experience or the Bible.

I believe this assessment to be false and I never stated that it did. That comes of speaking one's opinion instead of knowing the facts of the experience.

I am willing to compare methodolgies. So far you are measured and found wanting.

 

[`mud]

One quick question.
Why does God allow 'demons' or 'evil' ?
I guess evil demons have free will also.
Amazing !
~
'mud

 

[Unveiled Artist]

In thr Lotus Sutra the Buddha and Nichiren, the buddha describe demons by metaphor as our evil thoughts and actions that consume thebself letting us suffer internally in the avichi hell (permenant inner state of tormant). As such, demons do exist as long as humans exist.

I experience "demons" daily. I also believe if we are not careful in who we direct and how we pray we can bring spirits with bad intentions. These are not demons.

I believe that demons are real and base that both on the Bible and my personal experience.

 

[Nietzsche]

I don't believe in demons because I don't believe anything is inherently bad or evil. Even if some manner of spirits exist, the odds are they would be as morally & socially complex as we are. Different obviously, but not mustache-twirlingly evil because ebil'.

I believe your opinions to be a lot less reliable than my experience or the Bible.

I believe this assessment to be false and I never stated that it did. That comes of speaking one's opinion instead of knowing the facts of the experience.

I am willing to compare methodolgies. So far you are measured and found wanting.

You're aware of "fear", right? And phobias? And all manner of things that bother people? For instance, I am bothered by heights, and also fear tight spaces. When I watched the movie 'Buried' I had to do it in two or three sittings because of that. And when I went to bed, when I closed my eyes I could only think of being trapped in a box, slowly running out of air and dying in misery, with no one and nothing to save me.

You saw a scary movie that bothered you on a deeper level than you expected. Nothing more, nothing less. Do not attribute to supernatural forces that which is more than adequately explained by things as simple as 'being human'.

 

[HonestJoe]

I believe your opinions to be a lot less reliable than my experience or the Bible.

Interesting how you didn't express that belief of the opinions of the people who happened to agree with you. Have you heard of confirmation bias?

 

[wizanda]

Demons (satan, accuser, adversary, devil, ego, etc ) and genius (God in us, holy spirit, soul, guardian angel, etc ) are within all of us....There are ideas of an angel and devil sitting on your shoulder in many beliefs globally.

So yes they clearly exist, some of us are them personified (we've spent so long listening to the wrong side); we've just externalized it all and passed blame, so we don't need to look at the inside of the cup.

Having had a NDE, all i saw in hell were the inner souls of people, who had no recognition that they had lost the child within, and become bitter and twisted (a demon).

Tried to summarize it as a poem here.

 

[George-ananda]

I believe that demons are real despite the modern scientific people who think it is all ridiculous old superstition. The universe is vastly more complex than these 'scientific' types envision. I have read enough strong cases for demonic entities that I don't seriously doubt their existence. One way to differentiate demonic activity from mental illness is the existence of violent angry paranormal activity. I believe demons are entities existing on the lower astral planes in a state of anger and hate. Given a chance they will psychically muck with vulnerable humans to express their anger and hatred. Fortunately, in the end, all demons will fail and give up their anger and hatred.

 

[Gambit]

I believe that demons are real and base that both on the Bible and my personal experience.

I have had some experience with what I would call demonic entities. I suspect they are denizens of what Jung called the "collective unconscious."

 

[Sapiens]

I believe your opinions to be a lot less reliable than my experience or the Bible.

I believe this assessment to be false and I never stated that it did. That comes of speaking one's opinion instead of knowing the facts of the experience.

I am willing to compare methodolgies. So far you are measured and found wanting.

Your confirmation bias is showing. Opinions are of no value when they contradict the obvious. You have no methodology to compare so your attempts to measure and find wanting the nonexistent is rather a waste of time.

Interesting how you didn't express that belief of the opinions of the people who happened to agree with you. Have you heard of confirmation bias?

Hmmm ... you're right as rain.

Demons (satan, accuser, adversary, devil, ego, etc ) and genius (God in us, holy spirit, soul, guardian angel, etc ) are within all of us....There are ideas of an angel and devil sitting on your shoulder in many beliefs globally.

So yes they clearly exist, some of us are them personified (we've spent so long listening to the wrong side); we've just externalized it all and passed blame, so we don't need to look at the inside of the cup.

Having had a NDE, all i saw in hell were the inner souls of people, who had no recognition that they had lost the child within, and become bitter and twisted (a demon).

Tried to summarize it as a poem here.

Clearly? Hardly!

I believe that demons are real despite the modern scientific people who think it is all ridiculous old superstition. The universe is vastly more complex than these 'scientific' types envision. I have read enough strong cases for demonic entities that I don't seriously doubt their existence. One way to differentiate demonic activity from mental illness is the existence of violent angry paranormal activity. I believe demons are entities existing on the lower astral planes in a state of anger and hate. Given a chance they will psychically muck with vulnerable humans to express their anger and hatred. Fortunately, in the end, all demons will fail and give up their anger and hatred.

You're right ... it's credulous superstition or too many late nights watching "Ghost Busters."

I have had some experience with what I would call demonic entities. I suspect they are denizens of what Jung called the "collective unconscious."

That's reasonable.

 

[George-ananda]

You're right ... it's credulous superstition or too many late nights watching "Ghost Busters."

How do you determine that one is 'credulous' as opposed to 'an opened-minded skeptic that considers all views'? I suspect it is just your 'unbiased' opinion.