Are humans more courageous than God?

[Baladas]

Some people spent years hungry, sleep deprived, and tortured in concentration camps for taking a stand for what they believe to be right. Some people fought to the death, were humiliated, lost all friends, lost limbs, suffered permanent brain damage, and wound up in wheelchairs, or blind and deaf for life, doing what they believed was right. Is that more courageous than God? Why or why not?

Some people claim God laid down his life to atone for sins. Is that really courageous if you know what reward and glory you will have afterward? Plus, if you are God and the pain gets too severe, you can always make the pain go away or fill your veins with morphine and ketamine.

I'm going to say that humans have been more courageous than God, because humans can't will morphine into their veins or make pain disappear at will, and don't have any guarantee of what comes afterwards. Also, since humans don't know everything, that makes them more courageous than God imho

The answer to the poll is based on your definition of courage. Assuming God does exist.

I apologize for not addressing your actual post while discussing scriptures with another member. That was rude.

Within the context of the story and theology of the gospels, Jesus would have to be fairly courageous to accept "the father's will" that he should die. Aside from that? When you have nothing to fear, there can be no courage.

 

[Brickjectivity]

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[Baladas]

I have decided to answer the totality of your question with one verse of scripture. And if you unlock the mystery of this one verse of scripture, you will know.
John 7:17 "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself."

I'm a little confused, as those words are ascribed to Jesus and not Paul.

Should I accept Paul as a trustworthy individual and simply believe his claims because of the claims themselves?
This seems to me to be the equivalent of saying "I am right because I said so".
Again, this seems to be a command against thinking for one's self.

I get the sense that you don't want to discuss this anymore though, and I will respect that.

Take care and be well.

 

[Baladas]

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[Brickjectivity]

I didn't realize...I will have to re-read the rules. I'm sorry if I overstepped.

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[ChristineM]

Which god?

Mythology is riddled with courageous gods. Odin, Thor, Zeus, Murugan, Mars, Bellona, Chiyou, Woden, Bast, Ares...

And hundreds more, i dont see the god of the bible noted for courage.

 

[Dissily Mordentroge]

To anthropomorphize the notion of god is to diminish it.

Given we are supposed to be made in God’s image that’s a somewhat sloppy proposition. Maybe the weaknesses we demonatrate as a species are simply a reflection of an imperfect creator? Or, to put a more controversial twist on the theology, possibly a divine being who tortured his own son ( who is actually himself if you swallow trinitarian theology unthinkingly) to redeem humanity’s sins he knowingly made possible in the first place in granting us free will. This does suggest as followers of Christ we worship a somewhat twisted deity &/or one with a very peculiar sense of humour.