Are many people only focusing on the "negative" in religions?

[Spirit of Light]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Mostly all spiritual/religioues people focus on the good of the teaching they follow, and if there is something negative, they try to understand why the teaching say so. Instead of getting mad or angry at a God or Buddha like those who do not understand spiritual teaching can do.

Why the negativity?

 

[Piculet]

There is nothing negative, whatsoever, about Islam. But everything about the atheistic worldview is negative. If atheism is a religion, I focus on the negative because I can't stand watching people destroy themselves for nothing.

 

[Deeje]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Mostly all spiritual/religioues people focus on the good of the teaching they follow, and if there is something negative, they try to understand why the teaching say so. Instead of getting mad or angry at a God or Buddha like those who do not understand spiritual teaching can do.

Why the negativity?

It appears to be a trait in humans to justify their own beliefs by accentuating the positives, whilst focusing on the negatives with rival points of view. IOW to show why they reject others’ POV.

For spiritual beings, choosing a belief system is largely a matter of what resonates with the heart. It boils down to what is true for the individual. We all have free will and all of us have many choices in life. I believe that we are judged by those choices....and that God will not interfere with them. It’s how we tell him who we are.

 

[viole]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Mostly all spiritual/religioues people focus on the good of the teaching they follow, and if there is something negative, they try to understand why the teaching say so. Instead of getting mad or angry at a God or Buddha like those who do not understand spiritual teaching can do.

Why the negativity?

If for negative you mean lack of logical support, then yes, such beliefs should be removed. No matter how sweet they are in their teachings,

Ciao

- viole

 

[Spirit of Light]

If for negative you mean lack of logical support, then yes, such beliefs should be removed. No matter how sweet they are in their teachings,

Ciao

- viole

In the OP I speak about the teaching some see as negative for them self, or what they them self disagree about even when they them self do not follow the spiritual teaching.

 

[viole]

In the OP I speak about the teaching some see as negative for them self, or what they them self disagree about even when they them self do not follow the spiritual teaching.

Fine with me. As long as no belief in imaginary beings is used to support their truth, if any.

ciao

- viole

 

[HonestJoe]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Why can't you see all the good things being negative towards other religions can add to someones life?

 

[SomeRandom]

If a religion cannot stand up to scrutiny, it is a poor one. We use the negative to question. Questioning is how we can come to a logical conclusion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Fine with me. As long as no belief in imaginary beings is used to support their truth, if any.

ciao

- viole

Just because you see them as "imaginary" does not mean the spiritual beings spoken about in religions or spiritual practice is not real.
It's of course ok you believe as you do, I can not take that away from you.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Mostly all spiritual/religioues people focus on the good of the teaching they follow, and if there is something negative, they try to understand why the teaching say so. Instead of getting mad or angry at a God or Buddha like those who do not understand spiritual teaching can do.

Why the negativity?

A lot of people are negative about their former religion because they've had personal experiences-both good and bad-and external factors may have influenced their spiritual growth and/or they realize they don't want to put time and their life into the experiences they have or have had. Instead of seeing it as a lack of experience and that's why they are negative, see it more, they have the experience but because of internal and/or external factors (both positive-lessons learned from or negative-people's influences), they decide not to follow that said religion or religious leader or authority.

A lot of religious people see the positive and the negative they see is through cognitive bias. For example, they may read that god punishes people for X and justify it as god's laws (they can't question his edict). While at the same time, they feel the need to help others despite the cognitive discordance that god chose otherwise. Some people cannot handle that cognitive discordance at the expense of having positive experiences. It becomes contradictory and that fight between experience and contradiction (by the person experiencing it) leads that X person to the decision-stay or go. Many ministers have left their religion because they found what's best for their spiritual well-being.

Many atheists have become religious because they had an experience that brought them to that faith that overcame the rational they would have had without that experience. Take people who have near death experiences and saw who they interpret as god. People follow god for these big experiences and they may or may not have heard and believed god to begin with. So, it's not because of lack of experiences. It's probably rare that there are atheists who have not had spiritual experiences but many do just not with a deity or deities.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If a religion cannot stand up to scrutiny, it is a poor one. We use the negative to question. Questioning is how we can come to a logical conclusion.

If you do not believe in a certain religion do you think your scrutiny is even needed when someone follow the teaching?, could it be that because you do not practice that spiritual teaching, , you can not understand the wisdom within it? And misunderstand why the " negative" part has to be taught in that religion?

 

[Brickjectivity]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.
Why is it so? Why do this people see all the good spiritual teaching add to someones life?

Mostly all spiritual/religioues people focus on the good of the teaching they follow, and if there is something negative, they try to understand why the teaching say so. Instead of getting mad or angry at a God or Buddha like those who do not understand spiritual teaching can do.

Why the negativity?

• Its easier to complain about than to do with
• Many people come to RF needing to vent
• Some people want to test their thoughts
• You can't teach a religion in a religious discussion forum, only talk about religion and share experiences.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Why can't you see all the good things being negative towards other religions can add to someones life?

Not sure I understand you?

 

[Quintessence]

If a religion cannot stand up to scrutiny, it is a poor one. We use the negative to question. Questioning is how we can come to a logical conclusion.

All human ideologies would be poor, though, by this standard. There is no way of thinking that doesn't rest upon assumptions that do not stand up to scrutiny (aka, that cannot themselves be proven).

Nah, I think the better route is to understand what those assumptions are and then ask something along the lines of "are these assumptions useful and acceptable for what I intend to use this ideology for?" Everything has its niche, or its strengths and weaknesses. There's not really much need to be negative about things to examine the pros and cons of everything. If anything, consistently being negative causes folks to blind themselves to appropriate usages and merits of an idea. If you only look for bad, you will only find bad, as it were.

 

[Spirit of Light]

• Its easier to complain about than to do with
• Many people come to RF needing to vent
• Some people want to test their thoughts
• You can't teach a religion in a religious discussion forum, only talk about religion and share experiences.

This agree with you.
And mostly all religious people are ok to discuss with, no matter what religion they follow

 

[viole]

Just because you see them as "imaginary" does not mean the spiritual beings spoken about in religions or spiritual practice is not real.
It's of course ok you believe as you do, I can not take that away from you.

Well the problem is: if I believed in an equally imaginary God who teaches the annihilation of, say, people with red hair, then do you think I should also ask why people oppress my beliefs and teachings?

if not, then probably teaching the mass killing of people with red hair is something despicable per se, independently from what God might teach it.

and if we are smart enough to realize that, why do we need teaching imaginary beings at all?

ciao

- viole

 

[Spirit of Light]

Well the problem is: if I believed in an equally imaginary God who teaches the annihilation of, say, people with red hair, then do you think I should also ask why people oppress my beliefs and teachings?

if not, then probably teaching the mass killing of people with red hair is something despicable per se, independently from what God might teach it.

and if we are smart enough to realize that, why do we need teaching imaginary beings at all?

ciao

- viole

To me Gods, Buddhas, are not imaginary beings, I do not need to physically see them to understand that they are there. Everything in those spiritual teachings I have read and those I have cultivated my self, are showing up as clear evidence in my daily life. The "negative" or evil things we see in our physical world today has been spoken about for thousands of years in religions all over the world.

 

[SalixIncendium]

In discussion we often find people only focusing on what they feel or think is "negative" of any religion or spiritual teaching.

We? Did you get a pet mouse you keep in your pocket?

I don’t often find this.

If you and your mouse are finding this to be the case, perhaps it would be wise to focus on the positives people contribute and teach your mouse the same.

 

[SalixIncendium]

In the OP I speak about the teaching some see as negative for them self, or what they them self disagree about even when they them self do not follow the spiritual teaching.

Stop playing the suppressed victim. It’s unbecoming. Worry less about what others think and focus on your own path.

 

[SalixIncendium]

We use the negative to question.

You have a mouse, too?