Cooky
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This is generally true.
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Are many people only focusing on the "negative" in religions?
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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This is generally true.
Are you sure there are such 'true' religious and spiritual practices? Or are there merely comforting ones?
I’ve seen people do that in the DIRs if that makes any difference?
Terry Sampson
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Are you gonna tell him the story about the drunk and his mouse, or leave him wondering why you're talking about a mouse?
Spirit of Light
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Dir is very good because mostly you will discuss with people who understand the basics of that particular teaching yes.
Spirit of Light
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I do have a cat though
I think @Amanaki would do well in the moderation department. You're not worried about him taking your job, are you?
Worry is, in my experience, an entirely unproductive emotion. I don’t afford it my attention. Do you?
Are you following a true religion or spiritual practice?
True. They’re also more strictly moderated.
I guess discussions are what you make of them.
Spirit of Light
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Falun Gong is spiritual practice/ cultivation path, not a religion. But I know some people insist it is a religion, but our teacher say cultivation, because we cultivate mind and body, and not base everything on faith
Cooky
Veteran Member
Not too much, no. I'm a pretty optimistic person.
To me much negativity is because of false religious teachings.
Especially with the clergy of Christendom ( so-called Christians) who teach a literal hell fire.
When King James translated the word Gehenna into English as hell fire that is what helped put flames in biblical hell.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed.
This ties in with Psalms 92:7 that the wicked are destroyed forever.
So, the Bible's hell has No flames, No burning, No roasting.
Dead Jesus was Not in burning flames when dead Jesus went to biblical hell - Acts 2:27.
Jesus taught ' sleep ' in death at John 11:11-14.
Jesus was well educated in the old Hebrew Scriptures which also teach 'sleep ' in death - Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
Shadow Wolf
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We can get the positive without the negative baggage. Religion has been providing it for a very lomg time. So much that contemporary religion has separated itself from much of its past ways to conform to todays understandings and knowledge. But bad thoughts that are having consequences for others still exist. Prejudice still lingers, while potentially dangerous medical treatments and pidgeon holing people are still widely practiced today. Just as prejudice and segregation was widely practiced and legally permitted yesterday (still today, but it has been dealt many blows).
Both according to the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus taught that Scripture is 'religious truth ' - John 17:17.
The resurrection hope gives 'comfort ' - There is going to be a resurrection - Acts of the Apostles 24:15
Of course, that only pushes the question back one step.
Spirit of Light
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I do agree that in mostly all spiritual practices today we can find people who teach others in a wrong way, could be lack of knowledge or understanding of the teaching by the one teaching?
Unveiled Artist
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Here's an example.
Say John says god murder's women and children. He says because of this, god is not a good guy. He says this because of his experience with god (with whom he once believed in) and found his heart contradicted with what was written and said in text and speech. While he still had experiences, he also has a right to say what was wrong with his religion and why he left. They are justified.
Instead, maybe ask. "What are the truths in the negativity they find in religion?"
"Am I missing something about X religion that thousands of other people point out-am I blind to the opposite side of positivity?"
In other words, am I blinded by the light? Can I learn from others with different experiences than I have?
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Two things come to mind:
For example, John believes murdering women and children is wrong. How can a "spiritual person" dismiss this fact in light of a spiritual experience?
How does spiritual experiences or enlightenment excuse murder because the people who said it wasn't spiritually enlightened themselves?
How does spiritual experiences justify negativity that may be true about religions (if we step out of the light) regardless of our spiritual experiences (in other words-can people get out of their cognitive dissonance with their own religion?)
Also, saying "why people see the wrong in religion" is almost dismissing that there religion and religious experiences aren't perfect. Enlightenment isn't being lifted but being balanced.
In other words: Don't people who view negativity in religions have a point?
Spirit of Light
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Yes they have a point in that we who practice a spiritual teaching would benefit from asking our self deep question about our way of practicing, and about our way of understanding the teaching.
It is the one who practice that is the one who should ask themselves the questions for gaining deeper wisdom.
In my understanding, when a non practitioner of a religion ask negative questions, it is not for learning but to get the practitioner to fail and "admit" that maybe e his or her spiritual belief is bad or wrong
In Scripture Jesus agrees with the ^ above ^ because Jesus forewarned that MANY would come in his name but prove false - Matthew 7:21-23.
As the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their false religious ideas and practices and spread them world wide.
They helped create a greater religious Babylon, or Babylon the Great.
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious ideas and practices throughout the world today.
Some folks are of a competitive disposition and need to feed that by repeatedly seeking one up on others. It's not something I understand myself, but it's a thing. Usually I just bow out of those conversations quickly. They can fight with other competitively disposed people for their satisfactions.