Are my beliefs illogical?

[Antibush5]

I believe there are multiple gods, they are really little better then superheroes, I don't worship Superman, because I don't really find him to be all that believable, I also don't make it a habit to worship aliens. I believe the gods want me to worship them, because they are jealous, I can give them what they need and they in turn provid me with quite generous help.I believe that suffering is just the way of the world and the only way you can get through it, is to pull togther. I believe that evil is just a way of the world, along with chaos and disorder.I believe that the gods are literal beings, they are rather human like, with faults and such. I believe anybody who boils religion down to pink unicorns is a fool.I do not have evidense for my gods, nor should I really need it.It would be nice if more people followed my gods but I know people really don't like blood.

 

[HonestJoe]

I do not have evidense for my gods, nor should I really need it.

Regardless of anything else, this make's your belief illogical (at least as you present them). If you have no evidence from something, it isn't logical to belief it - full stop.

Note that this doesn't make your belief bad and doesn't automatically make it wrong but if you want to claim logic, you have to apply standard logical rules.

 

[Antibush5]

Regardless of anything else, this make's your belief illogical (at least as you present them). If you have no evidence from something, it isn't logical to belief it - full stop.

Note that this doesn't make your belief bad and doesn't automatically make it wrong but if you want to claim logic, you have to apply standard logical rules.

Is there evidence against it?

 

[HonestJoe]

Is there evidence against it?

You've not given enough information to say. You need to present evidence in favour of your hypothesis before any evidence to the contrary could be established.

In the absence of any evidence either way, it remains illogical to believe the claim is true.

 

[LuisDantas]

So you use them as a symbol, as a focus?

Makes far more sense than actually believing in them IMO.

(Out of curiosity, why did you post this in the Secular Beliefs DIR?)

 

[Antibush5]

You've not given enough information to say. You need to present evidence in favour of your hypothesis before any evidence to the contrary could be established.

In the absence of any evidence either way, it remains illogical to believe the claim is true.

Well, considering, I view this as something on more of a cosmic level, then just the earth. Maybe we will run into evidence in time, but really, sitting here and hopeing that we will come across evidence, could be seen as an excuse that I don't have any.

 

[Antibush5]

So you use them as a symbol, as a focus?

Makes far more sense than actually believing in them IMO.

(Out of curiosity, why did you post this in the Secular Beliefs DIR?)

Well, I wondered, am I very illogical in my beliefs? Why not ask people who are quite logical. It may have been best to have placed it in the debate section maybe.
Well I actually do believe in them, not as a symbol or a focus.

 

[Phasmid]

I do not have evidense for my gods, nor should I really need it.

Yes, your beliefs are illogical.

 

[Willamena]

I don't worship Superman, because I don't really find him to be all that believable...

Yes, that's totally illogical.

 

[Antibush5]

Yes, that's totally illogical.

How so? Just because I find one to be a god, who's possible inventor is unkown and one was created by somebody with the spesific purpose of entertainment, that puts them on the same page? I wouldn't say so.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I believe there are multiple gods, they are really little better then superheroes, I don't worship Superman, because I don't really find him to be all that believable, I also don't make it a habit to worship aliens. I believe the gods want me to worship them, because they are jealous, I can give them what they need and they in turn provid me with quite generous help.I believe that suffering is just the way of the world and the only way you can get through it, is to pull togther. I believe that evil is just a way of the world, along with chaos and disorder.I believe that the gods are literal beings, they are rather human like, with faults and such. I believe anybody who boils religion down to pink unicorns is a fool.I do not have evidense for my gods, nor should I really need it.It would be nice if more people followed my gods but I know people really don't like blood.

IMO, the logic or illogic of beliefs isn't in what you believe, but why you believe it.

Why do you believe all this?

 

[Willamena]

How so? Just because I find one to be a god, who's possible inventor is unkown and one was created by somebody with the spesific purpose of entertainment, that puts them on the same page? I wouldn't say so.

Because the author went out of his way to make Superman believable. He comes to Earth not magically, but in a space ship, from an advanced civilization. He is raised with good moral Earthling values by a couple of honest old folk in rural United States. He takes up the cause of justice, and supports what he believes in with all his might and capability.

 

[Antibush5]

Because the author went out of his way to make Superman believable. He comes to Earth not magically, but in a space ship, from an advanced civilization. He is raised with good moral Earthling values by a couple of honest old folk in rural United States. He takes up the cause of justice, and supports what he believes in with all his might and capability.

Your point? Just because it happened believably, dosn't make him as a person believable, he is still a rather comic book superhero, with a rather comic book view of the world as good or evil. While my gods are rather shades of gray.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Because the author went out of his way to make Superman believable. He comes to Earth not magically, but in a space ship, from an advanced civilization. He is raised with good moral Earthling values by a couple of honest old folk in rural United States. He takes up the cause of justice, and supports what he believes in with all his might and capability.

The authors of the Superman comic didn't make their character believable; they made him plausible when a certain amount of suspension of belief was given by the reader. Superman is only accepted as a character in a fictional story, not as an actual living, breathing person.

 

[Antibush5]

IMO, the logic or illogic of beliefs isn't in what you believe, but why you believe it.

Why do you believe all this?

Because it makes sense to me.

 

[Willamena]

Your point? Just because it happened believably, dosn't make him as a person believable, he is still a rather comic book superhero, with a rather comic book view of the world as good or evil. While my gods are rather shades of gray.

What do you mean by "shades of gray"?

 

[LuisDantas]

How so? Just because I find one to be a god, who's possible inventor is unkown and one was created by somebody with the spesific purpose of entertainment, that puts them on the same page? I wouldn't say so.

Don't underestimate entertainment. The power of myth is significant indeed. I often say that Wolverine is an Avatar of Shiva as far as I am concerned, and I mean it.

I'm not convinced that ancient Greeks, Egyptians or even Hebrews believed in the literal existence of their Gods any more than we belief in Superman or Wolverine. In many respects they work better as names for feelings, symbols. IMO it is actually a derailing to want to "believe" in deities instead of looking at them for inspiration.

 

[Antibush5]

What do you mean by "shades of gray"?

Well I don't think any of them are by nature evil, just like most "evil" people are. Like in the myth were Quetzalcatl became the sun and Tezcalipoca stretched up from the sea and knocked him down. That wasn't out of sheer maliciousness, it was out of jealousy that he took his place.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Because it makes sense to me.

Do you think this is enough to justify belief in something?

 

[Willamena]

Well I don't think any of them are by nature evil, just like most "evil" people are. Like in the myth were Quetzalcatl became the sun and Tezcalipoca stretched up from the sea and knocked him down. That wasn't out of sheer maliciousness, it was out of jealousy that he took his place.

But does "shades of gray" make these characters believable, where Superman is not believable?