Are "peaceful Muslims" really Muslims?

[Marble]

People will be who they are.
They will read the Koran accordingly.
So yes, many will be peaceful.

That describes it perfect.
You can pick and choose from any text the passages that fit your desire - peace or war, love or hate.

crime requires punishment and when there is war it is one's right to defend. you call it violent? i disagree. btw who's real American?

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American is a political affilitation, not a religious one.

I think the main problem is that muslims or the muslim countries, bring harm to the world in the name of religion.

I think they bring more harm to their own citizens than to other nations.
Those who carry out attacks in the name of Islam do not belong to the governments of their countries, not even to any secret service.

AL-MAEDA,38
As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime


here is ayah about what he called it violence
but in fact it's just punishment
i think it's more humanity than prisoning somebody over 10 years
Islam has no prison at all,it's something against freedom

in word,it's not violence,it's justice

I really doubt that.
And what if that person stole because he/she is poor?

 

[.lava]

American is a political affilitation, not a religious one.

so what? both have its own rules for people to follow and that's the point. some people assume that a peaceful Muslim is not really following commands of God therefor they are not 'Real Muslims.' i was referring to American people who's not following rules such as the ones who commit war crimes. i thought that was clear. or at least it is now

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[Mohamed]

I really doubt that.
And what if that person stole because he/she is poor?

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then instead of being punished,he must get help from the leaders and from all muslims
it happened once
and another time,there was a starvation in the islamic country
so Omar ibn el khtab stopped this punishment for that year only
it's famous story
and even there are conditions to do this punishment
the stolen thing must be protected
forexample,if you left your money fo awhile in bublic place and i took it,i don't get punished like this,but if i stole your house,i would get my hand cut off

 

[.lava]

I really doubt that.
And what if that person stole because he/she is poor?



then instead of being punished,he must get help from the leaders and from all muslims
it happened once
and another time,there was a starvation in the islamic country
so Omar ibn el khtab stopped this punishment for that year only
it's famous story
and even there are conditions to do this punishment
the stolen thing must be protected
forexample,if you left your money fo awhile in bublic place and i took it,i don't get punished like this,but if i stole your house,i would get my hand cut off

unless you reach an agreement at the court with the victim himself

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[Mohamed]

I really doubt that.

prison is where we produce more criminals
alot of innocent pepole get inside and learn cto be criminal inside
and it's not suffecient to prevent them from doing more crimes
it's like treating animals either

but this punishment is very hard yes but he will sleep at his home like normal people
he loses very important thing but i think he don't lose his inside
and it's suffecient punishment because he can't steal anymore with one hand
and after all it's Deterrent before doing the crime

and it has more conditions too
by the way in the islamic nation,this punishment took place very few times

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

I think cutting off the hand of a thief is more of a preventive to stealing. I must admit, it works. As for stealing out of need, far as I know, that's permitted in an Islamic society.

 

[otokage007]

I think cutting off the hand of a thief is more of a preventive to stealing. I must admit, it works. As for stealing out of need, far as I know, that's permitted in an Islamic society.

I don't think there's less thiefs in islam countries than in any other part of the world. :sarcastic

 

[Songbird]

I owe you a frubal and you'll get one.

Well said.

Oh, and you're very welcome for the peace...and the cupcakes.

Ha, thanks, lovely!

 

[Mohamed]

I don't think there's less thiefs in islam countries than in any other part of the world. :sarcastic

first,most of islamic country now don't follow Shari'a law
only some gulf countries,and yes they almost have no thiefs at all but that's because they are very rich
second i will tell you something,here in Egypt,when the revolution took place in jenuary,the police was down and destroyed,for around two months there was almost no policeman in the whole Egypt,but we didn't have any problem,there was no more theifs than normal days,we were only afraid from regiem's thugs
just see what's happening in UK after some chaos while the police still the same strong as usual!!

 

[tSeka]

Can you truly be a Christian if you don't believe in stoning your daughter to death if she curses you?

You misunderstand the bible.

First of all, any verse instructing Christians to stone somebody doesn't really mean they should kill.

Ever read the part "and he who is empty of sin should throw the first stone?"

You understand the Bible also states that we are all sinners?

So by that theorem;

Stone Sinners=Only one who doesn't sin should throw the first stone=We are all sinners

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To stone ("kill") somebody is unChristian, as the 6th commandment of the Bible also states "though shalt not kill".

sources: Bible

-John 8:7

-Romans 3:23

-the ten commandments