That's right.
You came into this conversation partway through. Your posts give me the impression that you aren't up to speed on what Kilgore and I are talking about.
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Are people born inherently atheist?
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That's right.
You came into this conversation partway through. Your posts give me the impression that you aren't up to speed on what Kilgore and I are talking about.
Sonofason
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All anyone is defining them as is people, which they are.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
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No matter how long you wait, there will never be an acorn that is a grown tree. Right.
Until you can explicitly define the set "theists" (which would mean at the very least, according to you, a consistent definition of "god"), then you cannot determine whether infants are theists or not.
Sorry, you guys post too fast in this thread for me to track, so I've dug out an older comment. But I liked it. It made me laugh.
I think atheism is more like answering "What is the best food in the world" with "A spicy tomale" even though you have only eaten a small percentage of the worlds foods.
Sees
Dragonslayer
Glad somebody read it lol
Goofy way of saying - Atheism is not a positive indication of anything, it points to no solid parts of a world view, just the absence of one belief - thoughtful consideration or not.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
This reminds me of the "if atheism is a religion" jokes.
...If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.
... If atheism is a religion, then off is a TV channel
...If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sex position.
... If atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.
I'm sorry... I just couldn't resist.
Please stop attributing things to me that I didn't say. In this case, you've managed to claim that my position is the exact opposite to what it really is.
I know you freak out at the suggestion that you might be doing this on purpose, so I'll assume it's accidental and say this: it seems that you're misunderstanding things somewhere, so it would be best if don't assume that you understand what I'm saying.
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Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
As I said, if you weren't going to answer it, it would have been best not to waste time posting something.
Well, when you find someone trying to redefine newborns, you'll have something to say to them. Until then, you might want to keep your comments relevant.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Correct, not that it says anything at all about the current conversation, though.
A better analogy would be, "No matter how long you wait, there will never be an acorn that is lumber."
Perhaps not the current one, but the one from two or three pages back.
A statement that posits a way the world is is positive. If atheists are something, then atheism is something that defines them. If an "absence of a belief" doesn't posit a way the world is, atheism is a fail. If atheism is nothing, then there are no atheists.
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You think that your refusal to acknowledge that a seed has the potential to become a tree in a way that a rock does not is relevant to our discussion?
Acknowleding what Kilgore Trout said isn't the same thing as refusing to acknowledge what you said.
If you remove all the theists from the world everybody left are "not theists" and the prefix a- means "not" so saying they are "not theists" is the same as saying they are atheists. What would you say defines all these "not theists" besides all being "not theists"?
Why do "not" things need a name, Artie? We don't have a name for all "not" things, why would some be special?
Doesn't it make more sense that we give atheism a name because it's something?