Are Religions and Gods manmade?

[PAUL MARKHAM]

The Baha'i Faith does, but unfortunately, we are a very small group, compared to all the larger religions that are controlling the world by holding political positions. As long as people continue to hold beliefs that are outdated and no longer pertain to today's world there will be a disjunction between thought and action.

Disunity is not the only problem He addressed but as long as that problem exists the other problems cannot be addressed..

These problems have to be solved by educated people working together in unity so the principles of Baha'u'llah such as universal education and the unity of mankind did address these problems. It is up to people to put these principles on place and there is no magic bullet solution. The world did not get this way overnight so there is no reason to believe that these problems will be solved overnight.

The problem lies here. What do you do about groups who won't keep the peace?

You can have 7 billion people working together, but if 1,000 take up arms what's your solution?

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

To my knowledge, He does not address those directly. Why would a Messenger of God address such problems?

However, the Baha'is are addressing them by putting the Bahai principles on place.

For example, here are some articles on climate change:
You searched for climate change on BahaiTeachings.org

Because they are the major problems of today. Along with Covid 19. If he had predicted either I would respect him for his predictions.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

I am all for that, but how do you think it can be done?

So how do you propose we all start working together?

You can't propose your impossibility by discounting mine.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

I am not saying that peace was not an issue he addressed, but that is certainly not all He wrote about.
He wrote about many other things such as.....

• The oneness of God.
• The oneness of humanity.
• The oneness of religion.
• Religion as a school.
• Equality of women and men.
• Harmony of religion and science.
• Universal compulsory education.
• Universal auxiliary language.

Bahá'í teachings - Wikipedia

Whybdo we need to adopt any of these measures?

They're solutions to the problem, not the problem.

Also, Did Bahaullah think everyone will fall in line with his religion or is he proposing any religion. Like Atheism?

 

[Trailblazer]

The problem lies here. What do you do about groups who won't keep the peace?

You can have 7 billion people working together, but if 1,000 take up arms what's your solution?

Baha'u'llah had a solution to that problem.

Bahá’u’lláh’s Principle of Collective Security

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Baha'u'llah had a solution to that problem.

Bahá’u’lláh’s Principle of Collective Security

And yet people still say there has been no guidance?

What is it going to take Trailblazer?

Big things on the way, minds have to now think global.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

Baha'u'llah had a solution to that problem.

Bahá’u’lláh’s Principle of Collective Security

Give us a brief summary of the measures because we won't read it all.

However, I got some of it. Sanctions. How do you deal with countries, groups who don't take any notice of sanctions?

There comes a point where was is inevitable. Be that Germans invading the rest of Europe, Japan invading the Far East, Al Queda on 9/11. And 1,000s of other instances.

The 0nly solution is to stop the talking and go to war to stop one group dominating the others. No other solution works.

• The oneness of God.
• The oneness of humanity.
• The oneness of religion.
• Religion as a school.
• Equality of women and men.
• Harmony of religion and science.
• Universal compulsory education.
• Universal auxiliary language.

Do any of Bahaullah's solutions address this problem?

Stopping families from having too many children is simple in comparison.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Whybdo we need to adopt any of these measures?

They're solutions to the problem, not the problem.

Also, Did Bahaullah think everyone will fall in line with his religion or is he proposing any religion. Like Atheism?

The problem is ungodliness, those actions are God sent.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

And yet people still say there has been no guidance?

What is it going to take Trailblazer?

Big things on the way, minds have to now think global.

Regards Tony

No meaningful guidance. Telling people to adopt the impossible isn't solving anything.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Give us a brief summary of the measures because we won't read it all.

Therin lays part of the problem. Both the league of Nations and the United Nations also did not 'read it all', or at least implement it all.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

No meaningful guidance. Telling people to adopt the impossible isn't solving anything.

It is not impossible. Before world war 1 who would have thought Europe would have a union, or the world would have a body called the united nations.

Unfortunately it seems we need more destruction before we really become part of the United Nations.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

Therin lays part of the problem. Both the league of Nations and the United Nations also did not 'read it all', or at least implement it all.

Regards Tony

Maybe after reading a bit they realised it was impossible.

I posed the real situations of the need for war. Give me your side's solutions.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

No meaningful guidance. Telling people to adopt the impossible isn't solving anything.

Living peace is how we follow that guidance. We also teach that guidance.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

It is not impossible. Before world war 1 who would have thought Europe would have a union, or the world would have a body called the united nations.

Unfortunately it seems we need more destruction before we really become part of the United Nations.

Regards Tony

How do you deal with the armed dissenters?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Maybe after reading a bit they realised it was impossible.

I posed the real situations of the need for war. Give me your side's solutions.

No, I think it is time for you to see what you will do about it Paul.

Back to work for me, had my coffee break now chatting to you.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

Living peace is how we follow that guidance. We also teach that guidance.

Regards Tony

How do you deal with the armed dissenters?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

How do you deal with the armed dissenters?

The passage quoted showed it has to be a joint effort.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

No, I think it is time for you to see what you will do about it Paul.

Back to work for me, had my coffee break now chatting to you.

Regards Tony

We have to go to war. Which is what we do and the only solution.

Then the country with the best arm forces wins. Not 100% because the truth is some won't ever give up the fight. But it's the only solution that can work mostly.

Imposing your soft rules on others will not work and leaves us open to attack.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

The passage quoted showed it has to be a joint effort.

Regards Tony

A joint effort to do what?

 

[Trailblazer]

Because they are the major problems of today. Along with Covid 19. If he had predicted either I would respect him for his predictions.

That is patently absurd. Baha'u'llah could not write about everything He knew was going to happen even if He knew, and did not make predictions in order to prove who He was. Mostly His predictions were given as warnings of what would happen if people did not heed His call.

Covid-19 might be part of God's Plan, but we cannot know that since there is no way to know what God is doing/does/did. It would simply be conjecture to say that God has anything to do with it and most likely not. However, it if furthering the new world order that was envisioned by Baha'u'llah by forcing people to come together in unity.