Are religions biologically based and natural or supernaturally based?

[ak.yonathan]

I see no examples but your point is?

Regards
DL

My point is that this could very well prove that Gid exists.

 

[Demonslayer]

Yeah, you know the ones that kind of sound like trumpets.

You've been eating too many beans.

 

[ak.yonathan]

You've been eating too many beans.

I don't think so.

 

[Greatest I am]

My point is that this could very well prove that Gid exists.

Now I understand.

That is God adding to the multiverse.

Regards
DL

 

[morphesium]

Are religions biologically based and natural or supernaturally based?

All religions are manmade and all God’s are projections of man’s desires for supremacy and to be the Alpha male of the human race. Survival of the fittest and our desire to be the fittest human is what drives us and keeps mankind progressing and evolving.

I offer the following to prove my case.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-father-complex.htm

This last shows the Gnostic Christian understanding of seeking the ideal human and Jesus archetype that we call Jesus the good.

The choice people have is to believe that religions are ultimately products of a supernatural God who dictates policy to humans, who then pen them into holy books, and we have many Gods who are of this ilk, or to recognize that all these Gods are products of man’s imagination.

Proof for manmade Gods is obvious. Men have created the documentation of what they think.

Proof for a supernatural God has yet to be shown other than humans who say they wrote what was dictated by a God. Some do not see that as proof.

I think the proof we have of God’s being manmade is that no real supernatural God has ever bothered to correct any of the contradicting information about him, her or it. No God has ever corrected us.

Do you think Gods are manmade or do you believe in a supernatural God?

Why do you think that way?

Regards
DL

Thanks for the videos.

Are religions biologically based and natural or supernaturally based?

Religions are not biologically based and has nothing to do with supernatural for every religion is man-made.
Here I am taking a quote from one of my previous post about the origin of religions, please see the spoiler.

Spoiler: Formation of a typical religion

In the past, as humanity progressed into tribal societies and beyond, power always had to be vested with a few for proper administration. And it was easy for them to realize that they could guarantee their strong hold the most if they could take advantage of the fact that

1. The fear of the unknown is always much greater than fear of the known.
2. There is always the uncertainty of the future.
3. People had to suffer extreme hard ships for their survival and this demanded something strong to pacify them.

and nothing fits better than the God factor and hence the formation of a religion. This is something very easy to sell and makes the least oppression which they can easily suppress with some magical trickery and stories. Additionally, it has a very addictive nature and can propel itself for generations. Rituals and other holy practices were incorporated into it which not only strengthened the religious bondage, but also helped the religious heads to keep an eye on those who are stepping away from such practices. followers are easily made to believe that they get some form of divine protection.

so as different tribes formed, so were different stories and different gods. As societies merged or progressed or destroyed through war etc, so was religion.

In these societies, there were always evil practices; and there are always good and exceptional people who keep much advanced thoughts and they stand against the evils in the society. They take people or society from dark ages and enlighten them. Unfortunately just like ordinary people these great ones also die.(Religion has always been a good business - then and now). Some people seeing a business opportunity (and for power), sanctifies this person. So laws are made and are kept as such. Not (never) to be changed at all. Then existing scientific proofs are added to give it more credibility. Some magical/Godly stories are amended to it. Rituals and practices make it imprinted on those who practice it. This is how a typical non-tribal religion is formed - and 1,2, and 3 are still valid here.


So we have different religions, different stories, different gods, heaven and hell etc.

Additionally, all human beings (unless psychic), has rational thinking capacity on one side and are fearful on the other side (a natural self protecting mechanism to keep someone away from trouble) . The rational thoughts are against religion as it asks questions - enough to uproot religion. Fear on the other hand, suppresses our rational thinking capacity - what if the God gets angry if I ask questions that are targeted against him?

Moreover, the more we use a brain, the more it gets developed. Taxi drivers usually have a much more advanced visual cortex than other "normal" people since they have to memorize the various routes and places in a city. This is something religions takes to its advantage - to instill more and more fear into the human mind which hampers their rational thinking capacity especially concerned with religion.

One of the biggest obstacle that prevents religious people from thinking "normally" is fear.

 

[Cephus]

My point is that this could very well prove that Gid exists.

Nope, sorry, you're delusional.

 

[Greatest I am]

Thanks for the videos.


Religions are not biologically based and has nothing to do with supernatural for every religion is man-made.
Here I am taking a quote from one of my previous post about the origin of religions, please see the spoiler.

Spoiler: Formation of a typical religion

In the past, as humanity progressed into tribal societies and beyond, power always had to be vested with a few for proper administration. And it was easy for them to realize that they could guarantee their strong hold the most if they could take advantage of the fact that

1. The fear of the unknown is always much greater than fear of the known.
2. There is always the uncertainty of the future.
3. People had to suffer extreme hard ships for their survival and this demanded something strong to pacify them.

and nothing fits better than the God factor and hence the formation of a religion. This is something very easy to sell and makes the least oppression which they can easily suppress with some magical trickery and stories. Additionally, it has a very addictive nature and can propel itself for generations. Rituals and other holy practices were incorporated into it which not only strengthened the religious bondage, but also helped the religious heads to keep an eye on those who are stepping away from such practices. followers are easily made to believe that they get some form of divine protection.

so as different tribes formed, so were different stories and different gods. As societies merged or progressed or destroyed through war etc, so was religion.

In these societies, there were always evil practices; and there are always good and exceptional people who keep much advanced thoughts and they stand against the evils in the society. They take people or society from dark ages and enlighten them. Unfortunately just like ordinary people these great ones also die.(Religion has always been a good business - then and now). Some people seeing a business opportunity (and for power), sanctifies this person. So laws are made and are kept as such. Not (never) to be changed at all. Then existing scientific proofs are added to give it more credibility. Some magical/Godly stories are amended to it. Rituals and practices make it imprinted on those who practice it. This is how a typical non-tribal religion is formed - and 1,2, and 3 are still valid here.


So we have different religions, different stories, different gods, heaven and hell etc.

Additionally, all human beings (unless psychic), has rational thinking capacity on one side and are fearful on the other side (a natural self protecting mechanism to keep away someone from out of trouble) . The rational thoughts are against religion as it asks questions - enough to uproot religion. Fear on the other hand, suppresses our rational thinking capacity - what if the God gets angry if I ask questions that are targeted against him?

Moreover, the more we use a brain, the more it gets developed. Taxi drivers usually have a much more advanced visual cortex than other "normal" people since they have to memorize the various routes in a city. This is something religions takes to its advantage - to instill more and more fear into the human mind which hampers their rational thinking capacity especially concerned with religion.

One of the biggest obstacle that prevents religious people from thinking "normally" is fear.

Thanks for this.

Just to apologise for my use of English. When I say biologically based, I mean human based. We are biological creatures.

I agree with your views of fear and like the way this Bishop says it. He is one of the few Christians I respect.
I use it so as not to plagiarise him and also like the look of the reporter questioning him.

Christianity also uses Eden and the fall, which the Jews do not acknowledge, to show knowledge in an evil light so people will not question and also use the lie of Jesus dying for us so as to create false guilt and a feeling that we owe him something.

All psychological trickery designed to facilitate the indoctrination and brainwashing.

All priests and imams are liars and we all pay the price for those lies.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Nope, sorry, you're delusional.

But I am not.

I hear a funny noise in my fridge and am afraid to look. What should I do?

I think it is Satan. ----- Really.

Regards
DL

 

[vaguelyhumanoid]

Having a difference in men and women is not to degrade one or the other. I see no logic in that statement of yours. The gay act is not normal nor natural. It produces no life. That would seem to be common sense. Why you would think it okay, i have no idea.

The majority of human activities "produce no life". Sexuality isn't just about reproduction. Why should it be?

 

[ak.yonathan]

Nope, sorry, you're delusional.

Care to explain why that makes me delusional if indeed it does?

 

[ak.yonathan]

But I am not.

I hear a funny noise in my fridge and am afraid to look. What should I do?

I think it is Satan. ----- Really.

Regards
DL

Just what do you mean by all of this? Are you accusing me of distorting the facts? By the way I'm not afraid of funny voices.

 

[Greatest I am]

Just what do you mean by all of this? Are you accusing me of distorting the facts? By the way I'm not afraid of funny voices.

No. You herd what you herd and that is a fact.

Thinking it was cause by some God is why some here think you have gone off the deep end.

Regards
DL

 

[ak.yonathan]

No. You herd what you herd and that is a fact.

Thinking it was cause by some God is why some here think you have gone off the deep end.

Regards
DL

Care to elaborate any further?

 

[Greatest I am]

Care to elaborate any further?

There is no need.

Regards
DL

 

[Cephus]

Care to explain why that makes me delusional if indeed it does?

Definition of delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument.

 

[morphesium]

Thanks for this.

Just to apologise for my use of English.

Actually, i didn't find an error in your English (Hey wait! that talks about my use of English ) - and for me your english is good enough.

When I say biologically based, I mean human based. We are biological creatures.

That is exactly the way I took it.
There are some natural psychological aspects that we are prone to for our well being - Fear (especially of the unknown, future), The need to pacify oneself when things go tensed, etc...). These are the things that we are biologically inclined because this is very much essential for our existence. Ironically, the religion takes advantage of this in order to embed irrational concepts into our brain - and for that it has to hamper our critical and rational thinking skills.

I agree with your views of fear and like the way this Bishop says it. He is one of the few Christians I respect.
I use it so as not to plagiarise him and also like the look of the reporter questioning him.

Thanks.

Christianity also uses Eden and the fall, which the Jews do not acknowledge, to show knowledge in an evil light so people will not question and also use the lie of Jesus dying for us so as to create false guilt and a feeling that we owe him something.

All psychological trickery designed to facilitate the indoctrination and brainwashing.

All priests and imams are liars and we all pay the price for those lies.

Regards
DL

I do agree with you on these. I hope more and more people realize this. Additionally,science and technology is advancing at a rapid phase that it is revolutionizing our concept of freewill, soul etc that it is only now we have started to understand what they actually are.

Machine robot demonstrates self-awareness solving logic puzzle. This "self-awareness" is s precursor to the concept of soul.
Computer program simulates evolution robotic population.
For artificial intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky computers have soul.

All such papers are revolutionizing the understanding of the soul concept. I am quite optimistic that future computers and robots will be artificially intelligent and will have self-awareness and will have sensations.

Religion has been cheating humanity all throughout the ages.

 

[Greatest I am]

Actually, i didn't find an error in your English (Hey wait! that talks about my use of English ) - and for me your english is good enough.


That is exactly the way I took it.
There are some natural psychological aspects that we are prone to for our well being - Fear (especially of the unknown, future), The need to pacify oneself when things go tensed, etc...). These are the things that we are biologically inclined because this is very much essential for our existence. Ironically, the religion takes advantage of this in order to embed irrational concepts into our brain - and for that it has to hamper our critical and rational thinking skills.



Thanks.

I do agree with you on these. I hope more and more people realize this. Additionally,science and technology is advancing at a rapid phase that it is revolutionizing our concept of freewill, soul etc that it is only now we have started to understand what they actually are.

Machine robot demonstrates self-awareness solving logic puzzle. This "self-awareness" is s precursor to the concept of soul.
Computer program simulates evolution robotic population.
For artificial intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky computers have soul.

All such papers are revolutionizing the understanding of the soul concept. I am quite optimistic that future computers and robots will be artificially intelligent and will have self-awareness and will have sensations.

Religion has been cheating humanity all throughout the ages.

Machines are good at following orders.

Without instincts, they will never be sentient and if we did find a way to give them instincts, it might mean the end of mankind.

Computers may be able to simulate a population but until one of the programs actually steps out of it's program parameters and states that it is better than the rest, it cannot be said to be sentient or thinking on it's own.

It would have to both learn how to love those that agree to follow it and hate as to destroy those who would not agree.

Those biases are what lead to the survival of the fittest.

Without a bias, a computer program is just an adding machine doing what it is told to do by a program invented for it.

Regards
DL