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Are religious people mentally ill / psychotic?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Mine is not personal viewpoints, but also the viewpoint of many researchers clinicians regarding things like and a chuck of self help books that promote similar ideas of doing it in some spiritual sort of way. The same exact criticisms apply to the Secret, which is equally built upon pseudoscience and nonsense of a spiritual cure. If people want to include elements of that, then of course that is fine, but offering a cure, especially for something like a psychotic disorder, just cannot ethically be offered, and there is real risk in the failures of such approaches.
Yes... birds of the same feather flock together.

But it is very hard to convince someone who has received a miracle to believe that there are no miracles.

There are failures in cancer treatment but we don't throw the baby out with the dirty bathwater.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Psychosis is when you perceived reality for what it is not.
a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

If there is no God(s), does that mean religious people are experiencing a form of psychosis that has simply been normalized?

If Jesus isn't the son of God, then a Christian has lost contact with reality when they believe Jesus is hearing their prayers and will come back to Earth one day. It is delusional, is it not? If there is no gods that is.

No. Believing someone who happens to be lying to you, does not mean you’re having a psychosis, because that is not the definition of the word.

Humbly,
Hermit
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Some people who are mentally ill are drawn to religion (I'm thinking about delusions of grandeur). But that doesn't mean all who are drawn to religion are mentally ill, and many had no real choice but were born into a religion.

That applies to all culture.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Do you think the above does not apply to those who believe in existence of Gods and prophets with various labels? Son, Messenger, Manifestation, Mahdi? Existence of God, soul, heaven, hell, resurrection also is a product of human reasoning, although faulty and without evidence.

That’s what we each must find out for ourselves.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Stop? You assume I’m taking psychosis lightly. I don’t. I assure you I am clinically more psychotic than you, by measures of magnitude.
Then you are well positioned to pose your really silly question to the trusted professionals with whom you interact.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Psychosis is when you perceived reality for what it is not.
a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

If there is no God(s), does that mean religious people are experiencing a form of psychosis that has simply been normalized?

If Jesus isn't the son of God, then a Christian has lost contact with reality when they believe Jesus is hearing their prayers and will come back to Earth one day. It is delusional, is it not? If there is no gods that is.
As theists don't all agree with each other, some of them have to be wrong. So we know for sure that some religious people are delusional, right? Believing reality for what it is not.

Mental illness is no light topic and I don't intend to be using it lightly here. A genuine question this is.

I believe you are in error. Mental illness is an inability to cope with ones mental condition. One can be quite healthy living in delusion.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes... birds of the same feather flock together.

But it is very hard to convince someone who has received a miracle to believe that there are no miracles.

There are failures in cancer treatment but we don't throw the baby out with the dirty bathwater.
All you're achieving is making it look like your reading comprehension is atrocious, or you're too eager to disagree.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
No religious people are not mentally ill

As atheists wonder how can we believe in something that we can't see, and can't prove, theists also wonder how atheists think the whole think started out of nothing, or just by accident

I believe actually Godly people believe everything was created out of nothing. Scientists believe everything pre-existed in a different form and evolved into what it is now.
 

RAYYAN

Proud Muslim
I believe actually Godly people believe everything was created out of nothing. Scientists believe everything pre-existed in a different form and evolved into what it is now.

If we believe God created things, that is not called nothing
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I believe you are in error. Mental illness is an inability to cope with ones mental condition. One can be quite healthy living in delusion.
That is totally and completely wrong as many illnesses arise before someone has even had a chance to cope with them or do anything about it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Just garden variety evil?
Well, I don't really know what is going on, but that is my first assumption basically (propaganda). But such things have been known to happen over a dream. But I really do believe also a degree of "I like the comfort and low risk of getting shot behind a shed."
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
All you're achieving is making it look like your reading comprehension is atrocious, or you're too eager to disagree.
It looked cogent to me. Maybe it is simply you are entrenched in your viewpoint? We are free-willed people, so I support your right to see it differently, but it doesn't make me wrong.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It looked cogent to me. Maybe it is simply you are entrenched in your viewpoint? We are free-willed people, so I support your right to see it differently, but it doesn't make me wrong.
You are wrong for over promoting a crutch and for suggesting it's something it's inherent and exclusive to Christianity and for ignoring the risks associated with failure.
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You are wrong for over promoting a crutch and for suggesting it's something it's inherent and exclusive to Christianity and for ignoring the risks associated with failure.
It takes more to be a Christian than not - IMO.

I think you need to ask more questions about Christianity.
 
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