Are there any Flat Earth believers here?

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I am optimistic that the additional education available from the internet will help to end this ignorance. The one recent trend that might behind the recent failures is homeschooling. Home schooled children of fundamentalists tend to be shorted a bit in their education. Home schooled children do not tend to be taught critical reasoning. They are not able to fairly test ideas to see if they are right or wrong. The science education that they receive avoids anything besides the simplest of chemistry and physics. And if the parent teaching is lacking in math skills their children end up with the same handicap.

I wonder how many of our younger members here are victims of that sort of education. But even they cannot seem to avoid the internet.

Well, to be sure: There are far more service industry jobs than any other.

So long as the homeschooling teaches them to always smile, and ask, "would you like fries with that Big Mac?" their offspring will be an essential part of Tomorrow.

Somebody has to hand out the Value Meals to paying customers.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

That is a lie, you do not need a lab to cross-breed dogs. That is a lie from the pit of hell.

All of your “facts” have so far been lies.

LMAO! Ain't you CUTE! If you DID put a tiny dog-analog and a giant near-wolf into the same room?

THE BIG DOG WOULD VERY LIKELY JUST EAT THE SMALL ONE AS A SNACK.

I LOVE the hate-spew you are spreading here. You are SO CUTE when you are angry.

Your seething HATE comes out in such lovely ways.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Nowhere does that website say anything about Jesus.

I’m sorry for crushing your evolution fantasies.

IT LOST BIGLY, IN AN ACTUAL TRIAL-- WITH SCIENTISTS AND EVERYTHING.

The Disco Lie Site has long been recognized as a LYING FOR JESUS website by anyone with a working brain.

I am so very sorry about yours-- have you tried meditation? Caffeine? Coke? Electro-shock No?

Well... there you go.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

That is a lie, you do not need a lab to cross-breed dogs. That is a lie from the pit of hell.

All of your “facts” have so far been lies.

I just had to post this one again.... it is SO CUTE!

It makes me chuckle-- that a nominal adult is using such words... and they literally mean it ... they are not being ironic, or allegorical, or using literary/poetic license.

Really, as funny as that is? It is also sad, that an Adult in 2018, still believes in WISHES and MAGIC and other nonsense.

It's also a testament to willful ignorance, and demonstrates the insidious power of brainwashing.

The fictional Sith Emperor Palpatiene has nothing on Religion, when it comes to Power Over Weak Minds.

 

[gnostic]

Nowhere does that website say anything about Jesus.

I’m sorry for crushing your evolution fantasies.

The Discovery Institute is run by a large group of evangelical Christians, and other Protestants, and smaller group of Catholics.

In terms of professions, only few have actual science qualifications, but most of them are theologians and journalists.

The two founders of ID:

• Bruce Chapman is a journalist and politician.
• George Gilder is a journalist, economist, but his qualification is also in politics.

Neither of them have backgrounds in science.

The two who spearheaded Intelligent Design are:

• Phillip E. Johnson is a law professor and founder of ID, and he wrote the Wedge Strategy, a manifesto that clearly indicated to undermine evolution, in order to promote Christian Creationism through propaganda and using legal actions to have ID taught in public school as science, not to prove ID is science by using science.
• Stephen Meyer does have qualifications in physics and earth science, and despite being a professor, preferred to teach philosophy, not physics or earth science.

If you bother to read their Wedge Strategy, you would actually know that Intelligent Design is just a smokescreen to hide the fact ID is nothing more than disguise for Creationism. This manifesto only demonstrated their collective dishonesty and use of dishonest tactics.

 

[Truly Enlightened]

Regardless of whether or not the pilot makes the corrections themselves or by using their instruments — are you saying that pilots constantly dip the nose of their aircraft downwards to descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute to prevent the aircraft from increasing in altitude due to the “curving earth” peeling away from underneath them as they travel through the air?

I'm going to assume that you understand why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, or why the planets orbit the sun. I'm also going to assume that you understand how Gravity is a property of all matter with mass. Now think of the atmosphere as also orbiting the Earth, due to Gravity and the Earth's spin. Now picture an aircraft flying at a certain altitude that is perpendicular to the center of the Earth. Now here is the hard part, as long as the aircraft fly's at this altitude, it will follow the earth's curvature within the atmosphere it is a part of. This measurement from the surface of the earth will always be a curve, never a plane. As long as the aircraft maintains a constant lift, it will always maintain a curved flight path due to Gravity. What do you think causes all objects travelling horizontally in a Gravitational field, to take a curved path? Just go out and throw a ball horizontally, and see what path it takes. What is your explanation for this phenomenon? Gravity?

Also, as the aircraft fly's higher there won't be enough atmosphere to give it enough lift, or enough oxygen to give its engines enough thrust. In any of these cases the aircraft will descend. Thus creating a ceiling for the aircraft. Have you given much thought to my question regarding the speed of sound? How does your flat earth belief reconcile this inconsistency?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I'm going to assume that you understand why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, or why the planets orbit the sun. I'm also going to assume that you understand how Gravity is a property of all matter with mass. Now think of the atmosphere as also orbiting the Earth, due to Gravity and the Earth's spin. Now picture an aircraft flying at a certain altitude that is perpendicular to the center of the Earth. Now here is the hard part, as long as the aircraft fly's at this altitude, it will follow the earth's curvature within the atmosphere it is a part of. This measurement from the surface of the earth will always be a curve, never a plane. As long as the aircraft maintains a constant lift, it will always maintain a curved flight path due to Gravity. What do you think causes all objects travelling horizontally in a Gravitational field, to take a curved path? Just go out and throw a ball horizontally, and see what path it takes. What is your explanation for this phenomenon? Gravity?

Also, as the aircraft fly's higher there won't be enough atmosphere to give it enough lift, or enough oxygen to give its engines enough thrust. In any of these cases the aircraft will descend. Thus creating a ceiling for the aircraft. Have you given much thought to my question regarding the speed of sound? How does your flat earth belief reconcile this inconsistency?

Very informative post. Alas, you presume a thought too far.

 

[Skwim]

What is your explanation for this phenomenon? Gravity?

Here you go. He believes that if the earth was a sphere all the water would collect in the southern hemisphere.

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[sealchan]

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There are textbooks full of details.

What would you say offers more details?

 

[sealchan]

LMAO! Ain't you CUTE! If you DID put a tiny dog-analog and a giant near-wolf into the same room?

THE BIG DOG WOULD VERY LIKELY JUST EAT THE SMALL ONE AS A SNACK.

I LOVE the hate-spew you are spreading here. You are SO CUTE when you are angry.

Your seething HATE comes out in such lovely ways.

You do need a lab to cross-breed dogs if you want a labradoodle...

 

[siti]

The formula = no living thing has ever came from a non-living source.

So there are no living things then?

Some things don’t need a formula, like how you don’t need a formula to tell you that the sky is blue.

Correct - you just need eyes to see that...ditto evolution - look at a child - is she an exact replica of her mother? Are any two living things exactly identical? No they are not - they replicate imperfectly, even two bacteria splitting off from one parent are not identical. Heredity with variation is a plain fact of all life - it is as obvious as the sky being blue. And equally obvious is that if you magnify those changes over a very large number of generations the descendants resemble their ancestors less and less. And it is also a plain fact that in the natural environment, some organisms with some genetic traits will be "better suited" to their environment and will therefore have inherited a survival advantage which means that those particular genetic traits will be more likely to be passed on to the next generation. That is the evolution/natural selection feedback loop that has given rise to the vast biodiversity we see before our eyes. It is as plain as the nose (or beak in the case of a parrot) on your face. No (mathematical) formula is needed - you just need to open the eyes and engage the brain.

But fish turned into humans? LOL

If you can possibly get past your ill-informed prejudices, you might like to do a brief study of anatomy and ask yourself why our basic human body plan is so similar to that of a fish. Look up, for example, the "recurrent laryngeal nerve" and attempt to explain why God would have deliberately made a nerve take such an incredibly long detour on its route from the voice box back to the brain (looping - as it does - down and around the aorta before going all the way back up the neck again to reach the brain) when he could just have easily made it go straight back up. Better still - ask the giraffe - its recurrent laryngeal nerve detour is about 15 feet long - but you won't get much of an answer...partly because of this, the giraffe is capable of only a few feeble bleats...an adversity that human evolution has managed to overcome (or at least most of us have).

 

[gnostic]

How exactly did the universe “create” life. Life does not just pop up from nowhere. Your vague and empty claims do not mean anything, let’s be realistic. Atoms do not just form and create living organisms. I can’t believe how childish some of you people are.

Who are you trying to fool, me? Or yourselves.

And yet, you can readily believe that first human can transform DIRECTLY from dust (Genesis) or DIRECTLY from clay (Qur'an, Egyptian myths (eg Khnum on potter wheel), Sumerian myth (eg Eridu Genesis, Enki and Nimah, Song of the Hoe), Akkadian/Babylonian myths (eg Epic of Atrahasis, Epic of Gilgamesh)?

Believing in a deity can create humans, and be made from dust, soil or clay is one of superstition, accepting unnatural supernatural, what you would call "miracle" or "magic".

I don't which religion you followed, but if you believe in any of scriptures from the Abrahamic religions (be they Tanakh/Torah, Old Testament or Qur'an), then you needs no science to fool you, you have already fooled yourself with the superstition of ancient scriptural myths.

And if you think a god can create SOMETHING FROM NOTHING by saying a few words, eg "Let there be light", then you already believe in magic, sorcery or witchcraft.

Miracle, like magic, defy the laws of nature, like creating a fully grown human from dust or clay (like Adam), or from a rib bone (like Eve).

Some practice of magic and witchcraft involved in saying words, like spells, incantations, or even prayers. If you think words can create things or change things, then how is your belief in your god, any different from Egyptian gods, like Re, Isis or Thoth who were said to be powerful magicians, who have the powers to even bring life back from the dead, just as Jesus did, when he resurrected Lazarus.

 

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^ my point exactly.

 

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Lmao

 

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