Are u going to leave USA now?

[Muffled]

So, how is it intolerant and hateful to say that your religious doctrine has no business dictating the lives of others, yet it isn't intolerant to say "same sex marriage isn't really marriage," because, according to your, doing so makes it so marriage has lost its meaning?

I believe I tolerate those sayings quite well but there are those who do not tolerate what I say. Some people make personal attacks. I do not. I say what I believe because I believe it to be true and I have no problem if another person does that also except one ought to be able to have logical reasons for what one believes.

 

[dust1n]

I believe I tolerate those sayings quite well but there are those who do not tolerate what I say. Some people make personal attacks. I do not. I say what I believe because I believe it to be true and I have no problem if another person does that also except one ought to be able to have logical reasons for what one believes.

So, you wouldn't mind if I said your marriage wasn't really a marriage, not in any real sense, at least?

 

[Muffled]

There is that element among us, but they are a minority.
It's like those vocal abusive anti-abortion protesters.....I don't judge the whole by those few.

It seems precisely marriage....
- They pay the marriage penalty tax on dual incomes.
- They're in love.
- They raise families.
- They fight over money.
- They grow old together.....unless they get divorced.

I don't believe in judging by appearances.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't believe in judging by appearances.

I'm looking more at the functions of marriage.
Note: I use a secular, not a religious perspective.

 

[Muffled]

So, you wouldn't mind if I said your marriage wasn't really a marriage, not in any real sense, at least?

I believe not, because I would know the truth.

 

[sojourner]

I believe I tolerate those sayings quite well but there are those who do not tolerate what I say. Some people make personal attacks. I do not. I say what I believe because I believe it to be true and I have no problem if another person does that also except one ought to be able to have logical reasons for what one believes.

So, what's your logical reason?

 

[dust1n]

I believe not, because I would know the truth.

AH, well it doesn't really matter what you know, because your marriage is not real, and your actions will land you in eternal damnation.

Hey, I could get use to this tolerance thing.

 

[Muffled]

I'm looking more at the functions of marriage.
Note: I use a secular, not a religious perspective.

I believe that could be said of a rapist. He functions the way married couples do with the woman but there is a difference isn't htere?

 

[sojourner]

I believe that could be said of a rapist. He functions the way married couples do with the woman but there is a difference isn't htere?

He does? How?

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe that could be said of a rapist. He functions the way married couples do with the woman but there is a difference isn't htere?

There is no analog there.
The rapist uses sex as part of an assault.
Sex in marriage is to be voluntary.

 

[dust1n]

I believe that could be said of a rapist. He functions the way married couples do with the woman but there is a difference isn't htere?

Yea, the whole rape thing. Unfortunately homosexuality isn't really comparable to rape, as homosexuality doesn't involve forced coercion for sexual gratification.

 

[fantome profane]

There is no analog there.
The rapist uses sex as part of an assault.
Sex in marriage is to be voluntary.

That is one of the ways that marriage has changed in the recent century. At one time sex in marriage did not need to be voluntary or consensual. That is one way the definition of marriage has been changed.