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Are we closer to WW3 with hate preacher as president of US?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Can Islamic jihad survive if its not at war with some boogeyman?
yes it can......any target will do
if you don't belong to the club.....they will club you

perhaps it is a character of the extremists......but it only takes a few to be a problem
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
North Korea supports Trump and his "far-sighted" policies in withdrawing US forces from South Korea and not getting involved in a war between north and South Korea. Trump has also said it would be a good idea for South Korea and Japan to develop nuclear weapons.

...what could possibly go wrong?

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Does trump really want to withdraw from South Korea? I hadn't heard that. Do you have a source? If he is wanting to do that, South Korea would be overrun by the north, and I have family there.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
You could eat Putin....as an experiment, of course.
We'll see where he ends up.

Well I could...but the thing is...I have never been all that fond of Russian food.... sure if he tried to hop on my back for a ride, things would be different...I would have no choice...I mean...he brought it on himself then...but other than that...Russian food is not my favorite
 
Imagine the Republican hatepreacher becomes President, will that bring world closer to wider conflict?

Some of the resistance movements will say: look, there is crusade against Islam. Trump doesnt deny it.

Why would this cause WW3?

You could make an argument that it might increase jihadi terrorism, but the actions of the previous 2 Presidents has also done this so no change there.

For the sake of discussion, even if it seriously damaged relations with all Muslim countries (which is unlikely as it would go against many of their self interests) this is highly unlikely to cause WW3 as they are all pretty weak militarily and couldn't do anything anyway, other than support terrorism. Lots of Muslim countries hate each other anyway so they are unlikely to have any unified policy, and even if they did join together what are they going to do?

WW3 would require hostilities between 2 major powers, probably Russia or China and America. Relations with these countries might well be better under Trump as he might well replace the current ideologues driving the antagonistic US policy towards these countries.

Electing Trump might well make many people around the world view America (even) more negatively, but it arguably reduces the chance of WW3 when compared to a Clinton presidency.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well I could...but the thing is...I have never been all that fond of Russian food.... sure if he tried to hop on my back for a ride, things would be different...I would have no choice...I mean...he brought it on himself then...but other than that...Russian food is not my favorite
Put this on it, & even Russian food is great....
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It can even fix British food!
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Trump to me is much like Howard Stern with he ran for Governor of NYS... he has no clue what-so-ever how things will really work and it is quite likely much of what he says he will never get enacted. Howard was going to make big changes in his first week, and then resign. Most in NYS Govt. Knew it was highly unlikely if Howard did get elected that he would even know where his office was in the first week.

However Trump would be in a much more powerful, and potentially dangerous position as compared to the Governor of NYS. And I do not want Hilary there either and I am still trying to figure out what to do come time to vote. I am so incredibly disappointed in and confused by both of the 2 main political parties since neither seems to have clue as to what is best for "America:" over what is best for the "Republican" or "Democratic" party (aka 'what's best for themselves")
 
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David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yep. Here's the Korea times on it;

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=204255

Here's two videos where Trump comments on South Korea (the second one deals directly with the threat of withdrawal).



I didn't see In the YouTube videos trump wanting to pull out of south Korea. The videos were economic in nature as far as I can see. Perhaps I'm missing something. As I said I have family there so this subject is very important to me.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I didn't see In the YouTube videos trump wanting to pull out of south Korea. The videos were economic in nature as far as I can see. Perhaps I'm missing something. As I said I have family there so this subject is very important to me.

The economic arguments Trump made are the basis for threatening to pull out. I.e. If South Korea don't pay for the cost of US assistance, the US under Trump will withdraw.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/02/world/asia/north-korea-donald-trump.html

There is a link to a specific interview, but the wording is very unclear from Trump;

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/2...6/02/world/asia/north-korea-donald-trump.html

I cannot find the specific phrase or wording, but I hope but his will help as that does appear to be the right interview/article.

 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
The economic arguments Trump made are the basis for threatening to pull out. I.e. If South Korea don't pay for the cost of US assistance, the US under Trump will withdraw.

I think the US pays 40% of the NATO budget, and it's true that many of the other NATO members don't meet the 2% of GDP target, so yes, the US is effectively subsiding European members. On the other hand I can't see the US would ever pull out of NATO, so again Trump is using a populist argument. There also seems to be an underlying isolationist agenda, thinking back to the arguments around US involvement in the European theatre in WW1 and WW2.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Theresa May is in secret talks with Trump about him rebuilding Hadrian's wall to keep the Scots out of England. :p
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I don't think the Scots really want England, so is so is a divorce in the works?

Yes, those ungrateful Scots don't know when they are well off! Apparently the Scottish Nationalists are also in secret talks with Trump to rebuild Hadrian's wall. The Scots haven't got any spare cash and the rumour is that Trump would rebuild the wall in return for allowing him to turn Scotland into one huge golf-course, with Glasgow as hole 9. ;)
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The economic arguments Trump made are the basis for threatening to pull out. I.e. If South Korea don't pay for the cost of US assistance, the US under Trump will withdraw.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/02/world/asia/north-korea-donald-trump.html

There is a link to a specific interview, but the wording is very unclear from Trump;

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/2...6/02/world/asia/north-korea-donald-trump.html

I cannot find the specific phrase or wording, but I hope but his will help as that does appear to be the right interview/article.


Thanks for all the info Laika. I do however believe that we are too economically and strategically tied to South Korea to seriously consider pulling out.
 
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