Are white Conquistador descendants oppressing Indigenous South Americans off the Continent?

[Darkforbid]

Well, you have to decide who to believe. People who actually experienced oppression or a bunch of online bull****ters talking about **** they know nothing about

The poorest people in most countries cannot buy their own home

 

[The Reverend Bob]

One of those "meanwhile in Mexico" moments. Nothing to see here, let's get back to beating up on Americans for supposed "micro-aggressions" and what not.

There is a whole wider world than just the US. You should get out of your mother's basement once in awhile and take a looksee

 

[Milton Platt]

A legal Mexican immigrant to the United States told me that ten families in Mexico own all the wealth and property in the country. Another person told me that these ten families are white. My Mexican friend told me that the ten rich families will not sell any land to indigenous Mexicans to build a house on for their family. Thus the indigenous Mexicans are forced to just build their homes on property they do not own. On a different Christian discussion board, a South American told me that this is the way it is in all South American countries.

It seems to me that the more indigenous Mexicans cross over into the US, the greater the racial oppression will be for the indigenous South Americans who stay behind, until it is just white, Conquistador descendant, oppressors, living in South America and Mexico.

At the time of the revolution, the new government set aside large land holdings for the indigenous people. Many of those are still in tact. Others have been sold off piecemeal after those indigenous people petitioned the government for permission to do so. I am certainly not saying that there are no problems with the way the indigenous population is being treated, but what you have posted is highly inaccurate.
Also, most citizens in Mexico are not simply "white conquistador descendants" They are a blending of the European and indigenous peoples.

 

[Milton Platt]

Uh huh, sure. I believe you. You're the expert.

Yes, just like you......

 

[Augustus]

Hello Augustus,
So what is up with my friends story about poor Mexicans not even being able to buy land to build a house for his family, because the ten rich families have no reason at all to sell land, because they own everything? Who, and what race, is doing such oppression on the poor of Mexico?

It's true of many countries that a small number of people own a large percentage of the county's wealth. That's the nature of modern capitalism.

Most people who go to America do so for economic opportunity, not because Carlos Slim et al won't sell them any land though.

Over half of the land in the UK is owned by <1% of the population, but this isn't the main reason many people can't afford houses. The elites don't own the majority of houses in towns and cities, but rural land where few people want to live.

What percentage of land in America is even occupied? Do you think they could solve poverty in the US if only landowners would sell some of this to poor Americans?

 

[Augustus]

Only?

How many made their wealth from rent-seeking and exploitation of the land rather than commerce?

Seems to me that most made their wealth in telcoms, tequila, beer, supermarkets, media, retail, etc.

Well, you have to decide who to believe. People who actually experienced oppression or a bunch of online bull****ters talking about **** they know nothing about

Lots of people think they are poor because an international cabal of Jews steal their money, doesn't make them right. In SE Asia, you can replace Jews with ethnic Chinese to the same effect.

Go anywhere in the developing world and you will see plenty of areas where people own their own land and are still dirt poor as subsistence farming is not exactly a lucrative profession. In any of these places, many people move to the cities to find work.

I live in the 'developing world' and there is certainly a lot of corruption, cronyism, exploitation, and inequality before the law. Even if there wasn't though, there would still be a lot of poverty and migration from rural areas to cities.

If there is a rich(er) place next to a poor(er) place without fail the former attracts many people from the latter (especially if the latter has rampant violence and lawlessness due to the drug trade).

They are overwhelmingly economic migrants, not people fleeing racist persecution, and wealth inequality is not as simple as saying 'because racism innit'.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

How many made their wealth from rent-seeking and exploitation of the land rather than commerce?

Seems to me that most made their wealth in telcoms, tequila, beer, supermarkets, media, retail, etc.



Lots of people think they are poor because an international cabal of Jews steal their money, doesn't make them right. In SE Asia, you can replace Jews with ethnic Chinese to the same effect.

Go anywhere in the developing world and you will see plenty of areas where people own their own land and are still dirt poor as subsistence farming is not exactly a lucrative profession. In any of these places, many people move to the cities to find work.

I live in the 'developing world' and there is certainly a lot of corruption, cronyism, exploitation, and inequality before the law. Even if there wasn't though, there would still be a lot of poverty and migration from rural areas to cities.

If there is a rich(er) place next to a poor(er) place without fail the former attracts many people from the latter (especially if the latter has rampant violence and lawlessness due to the drug trade).

They are overwhelmingly economic migrants, not people fleeing racist persecution, and wealth inequality is not as simple as saying 'because racism innit'.

The caste system in Mexico is real and you don't know squat.