Are You a Killer?

[Audie]

Clickbait title is clickbait. Well...sort of.

In a discussion yesterday afternoon, the topic shifted to how a family destitute was destitute to the point that the father had to hunt to put food on the table, which led to a discussion about hunting and consuming meat.

Someone brought up the popularity of hunting in the US (deer and bear primarily) which led to me talking about how all the males in my family but me were avid hunters.

It was at that point, some guy from the UK mentioned that it is quite uncommon in his country to hunt for food, and there is such a disconnect from where meat actually comes from that it's not even considered that it's an animal that was killed for food when buying chicken or another meat off the grocery shelf. Is that the case in your neck of the woods?

I once asked myself, "Would I continue to eat meat if I had to kill and butcher these animals myself?" The answer was a resounding no, which was a large consideration in my choice to become vegetarian.

If you are an omnivore (or a carnivore), would you continue to eat meat if buying it at the grocery wasn't an option (or it wasn't given to you if you don't buy your own food), and you had to kill and butcher the animal yourself? Would that be enough to make you a vegetarian? Why or why not?

In China you don't get to kid yourself
about animals being killed for food.

 

[syo]

I fish. And I clean the fish and cook it.

I don't know how to hunt or butcher.

 

[Father Heathen]

I didn't know hunting was such a big thing in the US.

It's huge in rural areas, especially among farmers since hunting seasons tend to be during autumn and winter. Deer, rabbit, pheasant, turkey, boar, duck, etc.

 

[Fool]

Clickbait title is clickbait. Well...sort of.

In a discussion yesterday afternoon, the topic shifted to how a family destitute was destitute to the point that the father had to hunt to put food on the table, which led to a discussion about hunting and consuming meat.

Someone brought up the popularity of hunting in the US (deer and bear primarily) which led to me talking about how all the males in my family but me were avid hunters.

It was at that point, some guy from the UK mentioned that it is quite uncommon in his country to hunt for food, and there is such a disconnect from where meat actually comes from that it's not even considered that it's an animal that was killed for food when buying chicken or another meat off the grocery shelf. Is that the case in your neck of the woods?

I once asked myself, "Would I continue to eat meat if I had to kill and butcher these animals myself?" The answer was a resounding no, which was a large consideration in my choice to become vegetarian.

If you are an omnivore (or a carnivore), would you continue to eat meat if buying it at the grocery wasn't an option (or it wasn't given to you if you don't buy your own food), and you had to kill and butcher the animal yourself? Would that be enough to make you a vegetarian? Why or why not?

I tried vegetarianism once. It was very hard to maintain when away from home. Not a lot of fast food chain menus offer vegetarian fare. I could exist on a good salad and bread for ages


I have had to kill and dress out animals for the food supply. Its not fun.

 

[Father Heathen]

Lovely.

Unless you're vegan, frowning upon hunting is rather hypocritical. It's far more humane and less wasteful than factory farms and industrial slaughter houses.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What do you mean by artificial? Does your particular location or country mean choices are restricted?

As to healthy diets, reliable sources of information are easy to find online or in publications.

Most of our main grocery stores are mostly, but not all, chemicals and processed foods. The choices are restricted in regards to affordability. The closer origin the food is, the more it costs. So, you can pay twice as much to get healthy food at a farmer's market than you would from a fast chain food market. A lot of the differences are by cost when it comes to choosing what to eat. Instant foods are popular given people work a lot.

 

[Secret Chief]

Unless you're vegan

I am (except when I'm vegetarian).

 

[Secret Chief]

Most of our main grocery stores are mostly, but not all, chemicals and processed foods. The choices are restricted in regards to affordability. The closer origin the food is, the more it costs. So, you can pay twice as much to get healthy food at a farmer's market than you would from a fast chain food market. A lot of the differences are by cost when it comes to choosing what to eat. Instant foods are popular given people work a lot.

Where vaguely do you live?

 

[bobhikes]

Clickbait title is clickbait. Well...sort of.


If you are an omnivore (or a carnivore), would you continue to eat meat if buying it at the grocery wasn't an option (or it wasn't given to you if you don't buy your own food), and you had to kill and butcher the animal yourself? Would that be enough to make you a vegetarian? Why or why not?

Yes as a fisherman I often bring home my catch and gut it and cook it. Fresh caught fish also tastes better than store bought. I would have no problems with meat either, its just a lot more work and usually tastes worse than store bought, so out of convivence and taste I buy my meat. I do occasionally get farm eggs though.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Where vaguely do you live?

I live in VA/US in the suburbs. I think city vs country has a lot to do with it as well.

 

[Secret Chief]

I live in VA/US in the suburbs. I think city vs country has a lot to do with it as well.

That's a shame about realistic dietary choices in such a rich country.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's a shame about realistic dietary choices in such a rich country.

The culture surrounding healthy eating here has a haughty and pretentious air about it, and such goods tend to have inflated prices, which can impact accessibility for many.

 

[Secret Chief]

The culture surrounding healthy eating here has a haughty and pretentious air about it, and such goods tend to have inflated prices, which can impact accessibility for many.

Them vitamins are right up themselves

 

[SalixIncendium]

Most of our main grocery stores are mostly, but not all, chemicals and processed foods.

They were 10 years ago. Not so much anymore. There are plenty of choices for unprocessed foods and vegetarian fare in the major chains, even Wal-Mart.

The choices are restricted in regards to affordability. The closer origin the food is, the more it costs. So, you can pay twice as much to get healthy food at a farmer's market than you would from a fast chain food market. A lot of the differences are by cost when it comes to choosing what to eat. Instant foods are popular given people work a lot.

The culture surrounding healthy eating here has a haughty and pretentious air about it, and such goods tend to have inflated prices, which can impact accessibility for many.

As far as affordability, the majority of food is processed for convenience in the busy society we live in and for mass production to remove micro-organisms to extend shelf life. If food can be produced in large amounts without concern for waste, it will obviously cheaper than food that is raised and packaged in smaller amounts by more independent farmers.

There isn't an intent to gouge the consumer. It's basic economics.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

They were 10 years ago. Not so much anymore. There are plenty of choices for unprocessed foods and vegetarian fare in the major chains, even Wal-Mart.





As far as affordability, the majority of food is processed for convenience in the busy society we live in and for mass production to remove micro-organisms to extend shelf life. If food can be produced in large amounts without concern for waste, it will obviously cheaper than food that is raised and packaged in smaller amounts by more independent farmers.

There isn't an intent to gouge the consumer. It's basic economics.

Since a lot off people work they are eating unhealthy processed foods like cereals and packaged deli meats. All foods are processed in some way.

Natural processing is fine. But since whole foods don't last long on the shelf it's more expensive not only to buy, but how much.