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Are you a vegetarian?

Ana.J

Active Member
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one? Was it religion, health, compassion? Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?

I am a vegetarian for 7 years already I can say that my immune system is better now and my mind is clear and it is easier to stay conscious and alert if needed.

Looking forward to reading your stories :)
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Are you a vegetarian/vegan?
Yes, (with the fairly rare cheat). However, I am not evangelical about it and see some grey in the issue.
Why have you become one? Was it religion, health, compassion?
Compassion and non-violence as espoused by my favorite spiritual leader,
Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?
I can't really say I feel better or worse:(
I am a vegetarian for 7 years already I can say that my immune system is better now and my mind is clear and it is easier to stay conscious and alert if needed.
Great!
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one? Was it religion, health, compassion? Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?

I am a vegetarian for 7 years already I can say that my immune system is better now and my mind is clear and it is easier to stay conscious and alert if needed.

Looking forward to reading your stories :)
Although fresh vegetables and goodies form a large part of my diet I am also a veritable wizard with my BBQ. The creations that come off my grill are often quite incredible.
I would never think of giving up meat products, but more importantly, so no good reasons for doing so.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I was a vegetarian (near-vegan) for several years, for health and compassion. I definitely support outlawing factory farms.

Eventually due to a variety of research, in order to improve my health and the environment, I started adding some meat back in to my otherwise plant-based diet. Some grass-fed steak, some pastured eggs, some wild-caught fish, and some shellfish. I eat low carb, low glycemic, no grains except some rice, virtually no added sugar, virtually no processed food. Probably 80%+ of the volume I eat is from plants.

My health is better than ever now. I had chronic headaches which mostly went away, I get sick less often, and I became even more lean. Probably because I have a lot more vitamin B12, omega 3s, zinc, and other things which studies show tend to be low in vegans on average, and fewer carbs and a better insulin response than I used to.

I'm a big proponent of permacultures- farms that use animals and plants symbiotically as they exist in nature. And I try to eat fewer plants that require plows, in order to keep soil intact whenever possible.

A good example would be Chaffin Family Orchards. They operate an orchard, and so they sell fruits, olives, olive oil, etc. But instead of bringing in teams to mow the grass under the trees and clear the vines away with fossil-fuel based machines, they have pastured goats and sheep, which they regularly bring through the orchard to eat the vegetation (grass and weeds and vines), and from which they sell meat, wool, and milk. And in order to deal with pest control, they have chickens to peck away at the bugs and larva under the trees, that would otherwise hatch and attack the trees, and from which they sell eggs and meat. The animals also fertilize the orchard, reducing the need for external fertilizer. The place has reduced fuel consumption massively, while also increasing calorie output per acre.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
Although fresh vegetables and goodies form a large part of my diet I am also a veritable wizard with my BBQ. The creations that come off my grill are often quite incredible.
I would never think of giving up meat products, but more importantly, so no good reasons for doing so.

Are you sure? The reasons are stolen from here.

The Environment
  1. Conservation of Fossil fuel. It takes 78 calories of fossil fuel to produce 1 calorie of beef protein; 35 calories for 1 calorie of pork; 22 calories for 1 of poultry; but just 1 calorie of fossil fuel for 1 calorie of soybeans. By eating plant foods instead of animal foods, I help conserve our non-renewable sources of energy.

  2. Water Conservation. It takes 3 to 15 times as much water to produce animal protein as it does plant protein. As a vegetarian I contribute to water conservation.

  3. Efficient use of grains. It takes up to 16 pounds of soybeans and grains to produce 1 lb. of beef and 3 to 6 lbs. to produce 1 lb of turkey & egg. By eating grain foods directly, I make the food supply more efficient & that contributes to the environment.

  4. Soil conservation. When grains & legumes are used more efficiently, our precious topsoil is automatically made more efficient in its use. We use less agricultural resources to provide for the same number of people.

  5. Saving our forests. Tropical forests in Brazil and other tropic regions are destroyed daily, in part, to create more acreage to raise livestock. By not supporting the meat industry, I directly reduce the demand to pillage these irreplaceable treasures of nature. Since the forest land "filters" our air supply and contains botanical sources for new medicines, this destruction is irreversable.

  6. Asthetics. Decaying animal parts, whether in a freezer case or served in restaurants, can never be as asthetically pleasing to the senses as the same foods made from wholesome vegetable sources. Only habit can allow one not to perceive this: a change in diet makes this self evident.

    Personal Health
  7. No deficiencies. There is no nutrient necessary for optimal human functioning which cannot be obtained from plant food.

  8. High fat plus cholesterol. Animal foods are higher in fat than most plant foods, particularly saturated fats. Plants do not contain cholesterol.

  9. "Carb" deficient. Meat is deficient in carbohydrates, particularly the starches which are so essential to proper health.

  10. Vitamin deficient. Except for the b-complex, meat is largely deficient in vitamins.

  11. Agricultural Chemicals. Being higher on the food chain, animal foods contain far higher concentrations of agricultural chemicals than plant foods, including pesticides, herbicides, etc.

  12. Exposure to livestock drugs. There are over 20,000 different drugs, including sterols, antibiotics, growth hormones and other veterinary drugs that are given to livestock animals. These drugs are consumed when animal foods are consumed. The dangers herein, in secondary consumption of antibiotics, are well documented.

  13. Pathogenic Microorganisms. There are a host of bacteria and viruses, some quite dangerous, that are common to animals. When I eat meat, I eat the organisms in the meat. Micro-organisms are present in plant foods too, but their number and danger to human health is by no means comparable to that of those in meat.

  14. Worms and other Parasites. Ditto on # 13!

  15. Shelf life differential. Plant foods last longer than animal foods. Try this experiment: Leave out a head of lettuce and a pound of hamburger for 1 day, which will make you sick?

  16. Organoleptic Indications of Pathenogens. Plant foods give tell-tale signs of "going bad". Ever hear of someone getting sick from "bad broccoli"?

  17. Heart Disease. Meat eating increases the risk of heart disease, this country's #1 killer. The correlation is an epidemiological fact.

  18. Cancer prevention. Of all the natural cancer prevention substances found: vitamin C, B-17, hydroquionenes, beta carotene, NDGA, - none has been found to be animal derived. Yet most meats, when cooked, produce an array of benzenes and other carcinogenic compounds. Cancer is infinitely easier to prevent than cure. Soybeans contain protease inhibitor, a powerful anticancer compound. You won't find it in useful quantities in animal based food.

  19. Disease Inducing. The correlation between meat consumption and a wide range of degenerative diseases is well founded and includes.....

  20. Osteoporosis

  21. Kidney Stones and Gallstones

  22. Diabetes

  23. Multiple Sclerosis

  24. Arthritis

  25. Gum disease

  26. Acne. Aggravated by animal food.

  27. Obesity. Studies confirm that vegetarians tend to be thinner than meat eaters. Obesity is considered by doctors to be a disease within itself.

  28. Intestinal Toxemia. The condition of the intestinal flora is critical to overall health. Animal products putrefy the colon.

  29. Transit time. Wholesome food travels quickly through the "G.I" tract, leaving little time to spoil and incite disease within the body.

  30. Fiber deficient. Fiber absorbs unwanted, excess fats; cleans the intestines; provides bulk and aids in peristalsis. Plant food is high in fiber content; meat, poultry and dairy products have none.

  31. Body wastes. Food from animals contain their waste, including adrenaline, uric and lactic acid, etc., Before adding ketchup, the biggest contributors to the "flavor profile" of a hamburger are the leftover blood and urine.

  32. Excess protein. The average American eats 400% of the RDA for protein. This causes excess nitrogen in the blood that creates a host of long-term health problems.

  33. Longevity. To increase ones risk of getting degenerative disease means decreasing ones chance to live a naturally long healthy life. Huzas and other peoples with large centenarian populations maintain lifestyles that are relatively meat free.

  34. Well Being. I just feel better since "giving up" meat and becoming vegetarian.

    Personal Finances
  35. Health care costs. Being healthier on a vegetarian diet means spending less on health care.

  36. Food costs. Vegetarian foods tend to cost less than meat based items.

    Ethics
  37. Love of animals. I love animals as I love myself. I have no desire to kill them or cause them harm.

  38. Stance against Factory Farming.. I cannot make a statement against factory farming if I myself eat animals.

  39. Respect for Sentient Life. I show gratitude to my Creator(s?) by eating as low on the food chain as possible.

  40. "Economic Vote". I show support of the meat industry and the way they operate when I purchase and use their products.

  41. Small sacrifice The sacrifice I make is nothing compared to the animals, its life.

  42. Natural diet. Our hands, teeth, feet, intestinal tract...even our body chemistry is that of an herbivore.

  43. Reciprocity. If I partake in the slaughter of animals, I will have to repay my contribution to that act.

  44. "Protecting the Temple". "Whatever affects the body has a corresponding effect on the mind and soul" (E.G. White)

  45. I believe in nonviolence. Slaughter isn't.

  46. World Peace. There can never be peace among men while men are declaring war on other highly developed life forms.

  47. Clear conscience. I know what I'm doing is right. I feel good inside about my decision to remain "meatless"

  48. Example. To live this way is to protect the underlying values of those around me.


  49. Easy substitutes. There are vegetable based substitutes for every meat product imaginable.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one?
Now eventually vegan; first went veggie at 8/9, when realized people were murdering someone's babies...

Yet at that age people insisted you needed meat, and i believed them; until my knowledge of science caught up, and learned we're not capable of eating animals.
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Was it religion, health, compassion?
All 3:
  • Noticed they lived a thousand years before eating meat in Genesis, only a hundred after.
  • Meat makes me tired, and had depression for years
  • As a child i knew it was wrong.
Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?
Yes loads better, less lethargic, more energy, better system in general. :innocent:
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Are you sure?
Yep. I am quite unrepentant and enjoy perfect health. :)

You did notice that I began my reply with the following, right?
Although fresh vegetables and goodies form a large part of my diet....
If you ever drop by for dinner, I'll make sure to feed you a lovely salad de jour with a smattering of curried BBQ vegetable and maybe a dollop of Basmati with yogurt. :)
I really am an excellent cook. :D
 

Ana.J

Active Member
Now eventually vegan; first went veggie at 8/9, when realized people were murdering someone's babies...

Yet at that age people insisted you needed meat, and i believed them; until my knowledge of science caught up, and learned we're not capable of eating animals.
[GALLERY=media, 7218][/GALLERY]

All 3:
  • Noticed they lived a thousand years before eating meat in Genesis, only a hundred after.
  • Meat makes me tired, and had depression for years
  • As a child i knew it was wrong.

Yes loads better, less lethargic, more energy, better system in general. :innocent:

I like the image :) I am usually sending this to those who are claiming people are predators...
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one?

Yes ... for the last 43 years. Originally it was a one month trial and error. Some friends were experimenting, so I took a vow for a month. I felt a lot better physically so haven't eaten meat since.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
We aren't predators...we're omnivores...

Yes, sure :cool:

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buddhist

Well-Known Member
Now eventually vegan; first went veggie at 8/9, when realized people were murdering someone's babies...

Yet at that age people insisted you needed meat, and i believed them; until my knowledge of science caught up, and learned we're not capable of eating animals.
[GALLERY=media, 7218][/GALLERY]

All 3:
  • Noticed they lived a thousand years before eating meat in Genesis, only a hundred after.
  • Meat makes me tired, and had depression for years
  • As a child i knew it was wrong.

Yes loads better, less lethargic, more energy, better system in general. :innocent:
Thanks for sharing your diet chart, but it is hopelessly simplified.

For example, the human brain actually functions better on ketones derived from a high-fat diet, than from glycogen.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
For example, the human brain actually functions better on ketones derived from a high-fat diet, than from glycogen.

Hm..... Glucose, a form of sugar, is the primary source of energy for every cell in the body. Because the brain is so rich in nerve cells, it is the most energy-demanding organ, using one-half of all the sugar energy in the body.

“The brain is dependent on sugar as its main fuel,” says Vera Novak, MD, PhD, an HMS associate professor of medicine at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. “It cannot be without it.”

I am on low fat diet for 7 years and my brain works better than when I was on meat....
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The chart is also highly oversimplified because it only uses bear as the analogue for omnivore, when omnivores in general are much more versatile than that. Wild boars are versatile omnivores and don't meet half the claimed qualities of an omnivore in this chart, even though pigs are so much better a human medical analogue than bears that we constantly use them in cross medical testing.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one? Was it religion, health, compassion? Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?

I am a vegetarian for 7 years already I can say that my immune system is better now and my mind is clear and it is easier to stay conscious and alert if needed.

Looking forward to reading your stories :)
was vegan am vegetarian. Primarily for the environmental and socioeconomic impact. Was vegan for the health + the environment argument. I would also say meat is not necessary and unjustifiable/. I guess i accept animal rights stuff but it wasn't my motivation. Im an atheist and a dreaded materialist but not into materialism.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Also we are not omnivores but we are generalist and opportunist.
 

McBell

Unbound
Are you a vegetarian/vegan? Why have you become one? Was it religion, health, compassion? Do you feel better than when you ate meat (if you ever did so)?

I am a vegetarian for 7 years already I can say that my immune system is better now and my mind is clear and it is easier to stay conscious and alert if needed.

Looking forward to reading your stories :)
Kinda.
But not by choice.

I have Crohn's Disease and red meat causes it to act up in unpleasant ways.
 

buddhist

Well-Known Member
Hm..... Glucose, a form of sugar, is the primary source of energy for every cell in the body. Because the brain is so rich in nerve cells, it is the most energy-demanding organ, using one-half of all the sugar energy in the body.

“The brain is dependent on sugar as its main fuel,” says Vera Novak, MD, PhD, an HMS associate professor of medicine at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. “It cannot be without it.”

I am on low fat diet for 7 years and my brain works better than when I was on meat....
IMO, yes, for ordinary people, the brain mainly runs on glucose.

Those involved in higher spiritual practices like fasting, might find that their brains converts to use ketones instead as their main fuel, promoting greater decreased brain inflammation and thus increased mental clarity, suitable for supporting practices like meditation. See also here, here, and here, for example.
 
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