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Are you an individualist or a collectivist?

Are you a collectivist or individualist?

  • Collectivist

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • Individualist

    Votes: 10 66.7%
  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
In the culture/background/how you were raised, would you say you are more individualist or more collectivist?

This isn't a 100 percent one or 100 percent of the other. If you are 51 percent individualist and 49 collectivist, that's cool. I was just curious because how we view things, religious and otherwise, all goes back to how, where, and in what way we were raised etc. If we are family oriented, our perspective of life would be different if one is in a family full of individuals (like myself). There is some irony in life. This isn't black or white.

What say you?

Here is a overview of the two. Ilearned this in my American Sign Language Interpretation class. We had to learn that Deaf culture and hearing Culture have two different worldviews. It's not based on geography but how people relate to each other by blood, by experience, and/or by whatever.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/indi...-high-and-low-context-4-728.jpg?cb=1263309153

individualism-collectivism-high-and-low-context-4-728.jpg

Sorry, there are only two options on purpose. If you're stuck, just check mark the ones above that fit you. Whichever most you have of one than the other, choose that option.

This is not puting you in a box. It's just seeing people's perspective via the studies of how cultures see things differently and how they see things similar.

 
Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
I would say both at a glance, but even doing the checkmark thing it is still 5 of each for me...don't think these type of things really work for most individuals.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
A balance of both. I'm an anarcho-communist and an individualist anarchist. I believe in a community of free individuals. :)
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lol I knew someone would pop the exception. It's a study rather than opinion taken from different countries compared to "Western" countries. One side values individualist (the self) while others value their community (others).

I was raised in a family full of individuals. So, I could be both, cause we look out for each other and by heart, I am a people person. Yet, my culture is individualist. I was raised to think "I need to take care of myself before I take care of others". On the other hand, if I were a collectivist, I would take care of others before I take care of myself.

I know we can do both at the same time, odviously. You do see the point that different cultures have different values?
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Sees said:
I would say both at a glance, but even doing the checkmark thing it is still 5 of each for me...don't think these type of things really work for most individuals.
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It's a study comparing different cultures rather than opinionated by individual choice. So, they didn't ask each person which side they are on, they'd give exceptions like most RF people do. Rather, they just did a study seeing how people (not persons) communicate with each other..take care of others, self, and so on and so forth. They concluded these were two (on a sliding scale) of which many cultures fall into.

I mean, I was raised in a family full of individuals. I share both sides of the columns. However, my culture is individualist regardless because the study is set up to show results of one group rather than just me, the individual.

That's why there's only two options. If I did more than two, the list would go on forever.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Carlita said:
lol I knew someone would pop the exception. It's a study rather than opinion taken from different countries compared to "Western" countries. One side values individualist (the self) while others value their community (others).

I was raised in a family full of individuals. So, I could be both, cause we look out for each other and by heart, I am a people person. Yet, my culture is individualist. I was raised to think "I need to take care of myself before I take care of others". On the other hand, if I were a collectivist, I would take care of others before I take care of myself.

I know we can do both at the same time, odviously. You do see the point that different cultures have different values?
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Well, going by the list given above, I suppose I'd side more with individualism. Freedom is far more important to me than conformity. I find many non-Western cultures stifling because of their adherence to cultural and familial conformity, even though I despise Western capitalism and base materialism and consumerism. Despite that, I'd rather live in the West.

So I'll vote individualism.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I don't mind working with others....but...
my fellowman tends to screw up everything thing.

hard to soar like an eagle when working with turkeys

I think that answers the op
 
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U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Good example, guys, is my friend I mention often. She is Philipine (culture and value/collectivist) and born and raise in America (individualist). She has both sides. She values her individuality yet her family comes first. She has her own goals, and she consults her family over those goals.

She indentifies with collectivist, not because she is put in a box, it's because of where she put her individual values in relation to her collectivist values. If you think of yourself that makes decisions but then turn around and think your family should make them, which do you choose? A individualist would say "the person makes his or her own choices for the better good" while a collectivist may say "as a family (say our family name) make the choices for our family's better good" and that affects each person individualy.

That doesn't mean they are individualist; that just means they take care of each other so each individual is cared for.

There is a sliding scale with this as no person fits into a box. Plus having two choices forces the reader to either reject to answer or answer something he feels uncomfortable with.

The purpose is not to put you in tbe box. It's just to see what your culture is not what you personal value given, if you're like me, you'd be all over the globe.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Carlita said:
I know. My point wasn't to say one is black and the other white. It's a study... (so forth, I explained in the other threads).
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Oh, then I agree with you. We all have our own balance of being alone and being around others, and our passions are sometimes solo and sometimes joint. There isn't much that can be done about it.
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Other: I'm an ecologist.

Not a fan of the breakdown presented between the two. Doesn't represent how I learned about that dichotomy, problematic as the dichotomy is.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Quintessence said:
Other: I'm an ecologist.

Not a fan of the breakdown presented between the two. Doesn't represent how I learned about that dichotomy, problematic as the dichotomy is.
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Im nlt familar with the words. Though, I know you dont consider yourself one thing and not the other. Without thinking of it black and white (as not intended) and political,

What culture were you raised? I mean, I was raised to think of myself first. Yet my values (my faith) says I see my true nature in helping others first. Is this true? Yes. Am I both then? No. Thats not my culture. My values are different than my culture.

I am a collectivist values but individualist culture.

I was thinking that if these studies exclude 5% of the population that thinks the study limits them, are they aliens?

There's got to be a cultural outlook for everyone. Take away the labels. The details are still the same. Indivisuals usually see things in black and white. Collectivist see unity.

Based on the threads of yours I have read, you seem individualist in that tou dont seem to comform tonother peoples "right or wrong" nor to their "labels". You have a unique outlook given you dont share a lot of what neopagans share.

On the other hand, you could be very close to your family. Maybe your faith and values are shappes by your family and visa versa. Maybe you think of others before self. If so, you are collectivist.

I mean, many collectivist are raised individuals. Many indivisuals are raised in a collectivisr environment.

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Its not black or white. No labels. Bypass the list. Im just curious about everyone's cultural outlook Not wether they fit in one box or another.
 
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