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Are you vegetarian or vegan?
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Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
I was thinking of adding 'cost' to my list, but didn't want to sound like a cheapskate.
Meat and dairy are expensive.
So... what does milk have that you'd need to find a substitute for?
Calcium and a base for baking goods.
I have a part time job at minimum wage so I cannot afford the alternatives I have located.
“One farmer says to me, 'You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make bones with;' and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying his system with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle.”
-- Henry David Thoreau
-- Henry David Thoreau
While avoiding animal products will probably help you live longer (at least 8 years more than the average American), healthy lifestyles are also important: exercising, not smoking, not drinking etc.
Lol, "you can believe what you wish", posted that table....Then could go on loads about scientific aspects of trying to consume animal products.
For instance collagen in beef, isn't digestible it just sits rotting in your intestines.
Milk causes osteoporosis, as it exploits calcium out of your bones.
Eating animal products is likely trying to pour saw dust in your cars oil, and wondering why it seizes up all the time.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I don't eat bacon-flavoured ice-cream.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Lol, "you can believe what you wish", posted that table....Then could go on loads about scientific aspects of trying to consume animal products.
For instance collagen in beef, isn't digestible it just sits rotting in your intestines.
Milk causes osteoporosis, as it exploits calcium out of your bones.
Eating animal products is likely trying to pour saw dust in your cars oil, and wondering why it seizes up all the time.
No in reality it is:
Milk under certain conditions can cause osteoporosis.
Not: Milk causes osteoporosis.
allfoak
Alchemist
The plants are alive.
The plants are one of the mediums we have to connect us to life.
Unless we consume the blood of animals (which i am not suggesting anyone do) then we are consuming something that is dead, it cannot be a medium to connect to anything but death.
My purpose is to change matter to spirit.
This cannot be done by consuming what is dead.
The plants are one of the mediums we have to connect us to life.
Unless we consume the blood of animals (which i am not suggesting anyone do) then we are consuming something that is dead, it cannot be a medium to connect to anything but death.
My purpose is to change matter to spirit.
This cannot be done by consuming what is dead.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I hear ya. I'm Type 2 myself, although one Metformin per day brings my sugar into a good range. I'm also a carboholic, especially rice.
However, since becoming mostly alcoholic and reducing my fat intake, my numbers have gotten a lot better, and I'm 30+ pounds lighter than my peak weight several years ago-- I'm at 198 now.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's sometimes referred to as a "protein block", namely that large amounts of protein intake tends to reduce the bones absorption of calcium. For example, the Finns have the highest milk intake, plus they consume a lot of meat in general, and yet they have one of the highest degrees of osteoporosis worldwide.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Marked "other"?? That sounds scary to even eat.
It's not milk, per se, that promotes osteoporosis (and renal failure, by the way), but protein -- in any form.
Protein metabolism lowers blood pH. Blood pH must be kept within a narrow range. To maintain proper pH, the body mobilizes calcium as an antacid from the only large, inactive store available -- bone.
Osteoporosis is rare or unknown in low protein cultures.
allfoak
Alchemist
I think you missed the joke.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
That would be the consumption of GMO's. (genetically modified organisms)
Because of course all GMOs must be done in a "horrific" way like this one.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
I apologize, It is often difficult for me to distinguish between attire and stupidity on the internet.
As saying you can believe what you wish, the stats say that the countries with higher milk consumption have higher osteoporosis....
Also male hair loss, high cholesterol, acne, etc are all directly related to drinking milk.
So would rather get my calcium from the sources designed for me, such as green vegetables.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
As saying you can believe what you wish, the stats say that the countries with higher milk consumption have higher osteoporosis....
Also male hair loss, high cholesterol, acne, etc are all directly related to drinking milk.
So would rather get my calcium from the sources designed for me, such as green vegetables.
First of all there is no evidence they are designed for you. Please do not be so egocentric as o think that they are.
Second please provide scientific articles backing that male hair loss, high cholesterol, and acne can be caused SOLEY from drinking milk.