Ark builder Ken Ham: Noah movie is disgusting and evil

[Skwim]

"Friends, I just arrived home after seeing the Hollywood (Paramount) movie NOAH tonight. It is MUCH much worse than I thought it would be. Much worse.

I am disgusted. I am going to come right out and say it-it is disgusting and evil-paganism! Do you really want your family to see a pagan movie the has Noah as some psychopath who says if his daughter-in-law’s baby is a girl, he will kill it as soon as it’s born. And then when two girls are born, bloodstained Noah (the man the Bible calls righteous Noah-Genesis 7:1), brings a knife down to one of the baby’s heads to kill it and at the last minute doesn’t do it-and then a bit later says he failed because he didn’t kill the babies. How can we recommend this movie and then speak against abortion! Psychopathic Noah sees humans as a blight on the planet and wants to rid the world of people.

I feel dirty-as if I have to somehow wash the evil off me."
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And a god who sought to rid the world of evil by flooding it and nearly exterminating all innocent life is so much nicer. I feel dirty-as if I have to somehow wash the evil off me.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If genocide is good enough for Yahweh, it should be good enough for his followers. After all, Jesus did say to "be perfect as your father in heaven" and mainstream Christians think the father is Yahweh so...

 

[Jainarayan]

Sometimes I think Christianity zigged when it should have zagged, and "shoulda made dat left toin at Albaquoiquee". The world might be a happier place.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Sometimes I think Christianity zigged when it should have zagged, and shoulda made that left toin at Albaquoiquee. The world might be a happier place.

Yeah. They shouldn't have connected the NT to the OT. They would've been better off agreeing with the Christian sects who didn't see the Jewish Yahweh as Jesus' Heavenly Father.

 

[Sees]

I like the paganism association with evil and killing

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I like the paganism association with evil and killing

I definitely took notice of that. Shameful.

 

[Falvlun]

Isn't that basically the story of Abraham and Isaac?

 

[Jainarayan]

No, Abraham and Isaac come later in the book of Genesis. If I read the tree correctly, Noah was Abraham's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.

 

[Falvlun]

No, Abraham and Isaac come later in the book of Genesis. If I read the tree correctly, Noah was Abraham's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.

I didn't mean literally. I meant that Ham apparently has an issue with portraying Noah as feeling he needs to kill a baby, implying that a righteous man would never do such a thing. Yet, in the Bible, we clearly have a story where a righteous man felt that he needed to kill a child.

 

[Jainarayan]

D'oh! I gotcha. Yeah, it seems that stories and themes of tests and sacrifices are repeated throughout the bible.

 

[nazz]

Perhaps Ham needs to read that part in the Bible where a father sacrificed his daughter to his god.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Predictable reaction of a petty, jealous child who is throwing a tantrum over never having received enough funding to build "his" ark.

 

[Willamena]

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Psychopathic Noah.

 

[Penumbra]

Russell Crowe is Noah? I never even heard of this movie.

One thing I've found is that the source material is really uninspiring when the artistic license is removed. I remember watching Prince of Egypt as a kid, a retelling of Moses' story, and thought it was pretty good. But when I read the books of the Bible that the story was based on, it was so much less cool. Moses was a nice guy in the movie but was a violent genocidal guy in the books (killed his people for worshiping a stature and then told his military to kill everyone, men, women, children, in a city except for the virgins and for the soldiers to keep them for themselves). God was pretty chill in the movie but irrational in the books; at one point telling Moses to go on some great mission and then later trying to kill him because he didn't circumcise his son.

Noah's story is ultimately about a genocide so there's not much way to present that ethically and reasonably.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Russell Crowe is Noah? I never even heard of this movie.

One thing I've found is that the source material is really uninspiring when the artistic license is removed. I remember watching Prince of Egypt as a kid, a retelling of Moses' story, and thought it was pretty good. But when I read the books of the Bible that the story was based on, it was so much less cool. Moses was a nice guy in the movie but was a violent genocidal guy in the books (killed his people for worshiping a stature and then told his military to kill everyone, men, women, children, in a city except for the virgins and for the soldiers to keep them for themselves). God was pretty chill in the movie but irrational in the books; at one point telling Moses to go on some great mission and then later trying to kill him because he didn't circumcise his son.

Noah's story is ultimately about a genocide so there's not much way to present that ethically and reasonably.

I've found that the Biblical stories where always uninspiring compared to the cultural depictions of them. But my favorite Biblical story was the Nativity to the Canticle of Mary, anyway. Other than that, I mostly liked the Psalms and parts of the prophets.

 

[Skwim]

A point about movie critic Ken Ham's review. Note that he says:

"Friends, I just arrived home after seeing the Hollywood (Paramount) movie NOAH tonight. It is MUCH much worse than I thought it would be. Much worse."
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Obviously Ham had already formed a negative opinion of the movie before he saw it. Not that this comes as any surprise---bias is ingrained in the guy---but it's nice to see him staying in character, as it were.

 

[Valjean]

The Old Testament is full of genocide and barbarity, its divine mandates cruel and draconian.
Ham is obviously cherry picking his theology.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A point about movie critic Ken Ham's review. Note that he says:

"Friends, I just arrived home after seeing the Hollywood (Paramount) movie NOAH tonight. It is MUCH much worse than I thought it would be. Much worse."
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Obviously Ham had already formed a negative opinion of the movie before he saw it. Not that this comes as any surprise---bias is ingrained in the guy---but it's nice to see him staying in character, as it were.

So? That's just called being a person, to form a negative opinion of something before the fact. But in the guy's defense, that movie does look really bad. The few times I've seen the trailer it didn't soon enough.

 

[Skwim]

So? That's just called being a person, to form a negative opinion of something before the fact.

His kind of person.

But in the guy's defense, that movie does look really bad. The few times I've seen the trailer it didn't soon enough.

Well, he gave pretty specific reasons for not liking it. Are these your reasons as well?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Can't wait to see people start saying "The book was better"