Arkansas inflicts child abuse on its school children

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Is this your opinion or sonething you can support with evidence?

Did you miss the qualifiers in that post?

I can give some evidence but it is not conclusive. For example the evidence supports the claim that he would not have been taken down from the cross. He would have been left up. The Romans did not cater to the religious niceties of the peoples that they conquered. Leaving bodies up on the cross was part of the punishment of crucifixion. It acted as an object lesson for others. A rather grisly one.

The writers of the Bible may have been confused because if the Jews had been the ones that crucified him, and they used that punishment too, then they would have taken him down for the high holiday.

 

[ElishaElijah]

No. Jesus was probably just a man, perhaps a wise teacher, and a myth grew around him after he died.

“Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”
‭‭I John‬ ‭2:22-23‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

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“Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”
‭‭I John‬ ‭2:22-23‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

LOL!!

You called your God a liar again. Oh my.

 

[ElishaElijah]

LOL!!

You called your God a liar again. Oh my.

The person who denies that Jesus is the Christ is the liar.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The person who denies that Jesus is the Christ is the liar.

You would have to prove that. A book of myths is not proof. It is rather amazing how you keep abusing a book that you supposedly venerate.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You would have to prove that. A book of myths is not proof. It is rather amazing how you keep abusing a book that you supposedly venerate.

Just showing you yourself.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just showing you yourself.

Nope, at best you are demonstrating your inner nature. Not very pretty.

I do not need to lie. I do not have mythical beliefs. I am willing to support my claims. You, not so much.

You can be a Christian without claiming that God is a liar. Just don't make the error of literealism.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nope, at best you are demonstrating your inner nature. Not very pretty.

I do not need to lie. I do not have mythical beliefs. I am willing to support my claims. You, not so much.

You can be a Christian withoul claiming that God is a liar. Just don't make the error of literealism.

You can’t be a Christian and reject Jesus as the Christ, that He died for our sins, was buried, rose from the dead the third day according to the Scriptures, was seen by Cephas then the 12 and 500 of the brethren after that. If a person rejects the Bible as Gods Word they can’t be a Christian. A person also cannot be a Christian if they are living and lifestyle of sin.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You can’t be a Christian and reject Jesus as the Christ, that He died for our sins, was buried, rose from the dead the third day according to the Scriptures, was seen by Cephas then the 12 and 500 of the brethren after that. If a person rejects the Bible as Gods Word they can’t be a Christian. A person also cannot be a Christian if they are living and lifestyle of sin.

I am not a Christian. Not making the error of reading the Bible literally is not "rejecting the Bible. But you are wrong on that claim on more than one level. The Bible does not even make your error. And you might want to clean up your sinful ways if you want to claim to be a Christian

 

[ElishaElijah]

I am not a Christian. Not making the error of reading the Bible literally is not "rejecting the Bible. But you are wrong on that claim on more than one level. The Bible does not even make your error. And you might want to clean up your sinful ways if you want to claim to be a Christian

Don’t have any sinful ways, already explained your error on your literalism comments and assumptions yet you continue in that error. Be happy to teach you.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I am not a Christian.

Then the Scriptures describe your position: Dead in trespasses and sins, walking according to the course of the world, according to the prince and power of the air, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and mind and by nature a child of wrath.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Don’t have any sinful ways, already explained your error on your literalism comments and assumptions yet you continue in that error. Be happy to teach you.

Actually you have quite a few. For example you just bore false witness against your neighbor.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then the Scriptures describe your position: Dead in trespasses and sins, walking according to the course of the world, according to the prince and power of the air, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and mind and by nature a child of wrath.

Nope. You are simply calling God a liar again when you quote false scripture and then pretend that it supports you. You are far more "dead in trespasses and sins" than I am. You are concentrating on non-sins and ignoring your own sins that are far worse.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nope. You are simply calling God a liar again when you quote false scripture and then pretend that it supports you. You are far more "dead in trespasses and sins" than I am. You are concentrating on non-sins and ignoring your own sins that are far worse.

How did I bear false witness?

 

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How did I bear false witness?

When you claim that others are "dead in trespasses and sin" that is bearing false witness because you have no real way of knowing. You constantly ignore the beam in your eye when you accuse others of sin.

 

[ElishaElijah]

When you claim that others are "dead in trespasses and sin" that is bearing false witness because you have no real way of knowing. You constantly ignore the beam in your eye when you accuse others of sin.

I said the Scriptures describes you... Ephesians 2. You already said you reject Jesus as the Christ.
If you had something it would give me the opportunity to repent and give more praise to Jesus Christ for covering my sin and cleansing me.

 

[ecco]

You can’t be a Christian and reject Jesus as the Christ, that He died for our sins,

What do you mean: "He died for our sins". If you believe your scriptures;

He lived in a Godly state for almost all of eternity.
He lived as a mortal for about 30 years.
Then He returned to His Godly state.

Living as a mere mortal for 30 years is less than the blink of an eye to an eternal entity. "Died"? Nah. All He did was switch back to His Godliness. Big whoop-de-do. Big sacrifice.

 

[ElishaElijah]

What do you mean: "He died for our sins". If you believe your scriptures;

He lived in a Godly state for almost all of eternity.
He lived as a mortal for about 30 years.
Then He returned to His Godly state.

Living as a mere mortal for 30 years is less than the blink of an eye to an eternal entity. "Died"? Nah. All He did was switch back to His Godliness. Big whoop-de-do. Big sacrifice.

Great, how about you live like Jesus did for the next 30 years.

 

[ecco]

Great, how about you live like Jesus did for the next 30 years.

If I had been a God for eternity, I might give that a try.

However, that is not the case. A good analogy would be if I let my hair grow for 30 days and then get it cut. Ohh. What a sacrifice!

 

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I said the Scriptures describes you... Ephesians 2. You already said you reject Jesus as the Christ.
If you had something it would give me the opportunity to repent and give more praise to Jesus Christ for covering my sin and cleansing me.

No, when you abuse the scriptures it seems to you that it says that about me.

I could quote some scriptures about the Pharisees and apply them to you. Do you think that you would appreciate that? Or would you laugh at me the way that I laughed at you?